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To: Zuriel
That’s a lot of interpretting right there. Oh, Israel is the woman, all right. “He came”..(born)..”to his own, and his own received him not”.

**Joseph’s dream** has Joseph (not Judah) as the center of attention. Mary was of Judah, and therefore was one of the “twelve stars” of the nation of Israel.

What a tangled web we weave......

Thanks for replying though!

As you pointed out, Joseph's dream, in similar sun, moon, and star symbols, was about a person, Joseph. The stars were Joseph's brothers, progenitors of the other tribes of Israel. Your reference to his own receiving him not and being the woman is totally out of character with Revelation Twelve. Instead, it fits the one who stood faithfully by the Holy One, in conception, birth, life, death, resurrection, and ascension. It is about a real woman, Miriam, the blessed Virgin of Israel, who personifies and incompasses not only Israel, but the holy catholic apostolic church..

83 posted on 03/09/2015 7:11:44 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

**Your reference to his own receiving him not and being the woman is totally out of character with Revelation Twelve.**

That’s your church’s vain imagination. After Jesus ascended, she was in the upper room for days waiting for the Holy Ghost, not in the wilderness.

You believe it literally is Mary.
Is it literally the Sun that clothes her?
Is it literally the moon that she stands on?
Was there literally a dragon, as described, in the stable?

“And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he he might cause her to be carried away like a flood. And the earth opened HER mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the REMNANT of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testamony of Jesus Christ.” Rev.12:15-17

The earth is in the feminine, just like Israel.

The REMNANT of her seed. The Israel of God.

**It is about a real woman, Miriam, the blessed Virgin of Israel, who personifies and incompasses not only Israel, but the holy catholic apostolic church..**

Wow, you folks really do believe she is equal with God.


84 posted on 03/09/2015 8:51:05 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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