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To: mrobisr
" I don’t know why you Catholics are so insistent that God has a mother? God has no beginning or has no end, so he isn’t created. God chose that for our small brains to understand he should enter through a human form, flesh, and that his servants (Joseph and Mary) would provide for his childhood. He didn’t need any of this he created all of it, but to put it into our understanding he did it that way. It’s truly not important who his parents are they hold no key to our Salvation. I know that all the Catholic writers put her into the road of Salvation, but it’s just not IAW Scripture. You can call it tradition all you want, but pagans also had a tradition of woman worship not the kind of company I would claim.

Christ was born under the law. He was sinless. One of the major sins he did not commit was dishonor his mother because he was sinless. Remember honor your mother and father. If he had no mother we got no Christ the redeemer. One of the Ten Commandments. He was born of a woman in his deity intact if not you have a John 4 antichrist. We have to watch what we say. Truly amazing when people declare Christ in his divinity had no mother other wise we have an antichrist.

Galations 4: " God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5 in order to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as children. 6 And because you are children, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our[b] hearts, crying, “Abba![c] Father!” 7 So you are no longer a slave but a child, and if a child then also an heir, through God"

1 John 4

Testing the Spirits

4 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits[a] to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is the spirit of antichrist, of which you heard that it was coming, and now it is in the world already. 4 Little children, you are of God, and have overcome them; for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world, therefore what they say is of the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are of God. Whoever knows God listens to us, and he who is not of God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error"

" born of the flesh" means born of a human mother . The spirit of God in Jesus was born in the flesh by a woman. His mother. He has to always honor his mother not worship her as long as he is the redeemer in flesh. We always honor Mary not worship her. God came first no one is before him and when he became man he had a mother. All "bets" are off if you want to continue in your path of no mother of God. 1John 4 .

44 posted on 03/07/2015 11:19:03 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

**The spirit of God in Jesus was born in the flesh by a woman.**

God has no beginning, so that statement is false, or just poorly worded.

Remember Peter, the one you claim as first pope?.....well this is his description:

“..Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God......This Jesus hath God raised up,......know assuredly, that GOD hath MADE that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.” Acts 2:22,32,36

God made him both Lord and Christ, not Mary. God simply used her to make the tabernacle of flesh, that the already existing soul of Christ would dwell in.

“How God annointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him......Him God raised up.....it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of the quick and dead....”.

God annointed Jesus with the Holy Ghost and with power, not Mary.

Neither Jesus, nor the apostles, EVER used the term ‘God the Son’, for they fully understood the Godhead. Jesus and the apostles always used the term ‘Son of God’. They taught that God was IN Christ, not that God was Christ. I trust their understanding, not the interpretations of men (and women).


71 posted on 03/08/2015 3:05:53 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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