Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
There's Matthew's version...
Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
That's Luke's version...No babtism...
Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Conversion without baptism...
Act 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
No baptism...
Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Again, no baptism...
Act 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Repentance and Faith...Obviously baptism wasn't profitable for Paul...
There are some common things that are required for salvation...One is God's grace...The next is repentance (turning to Jesus), and the last is Faith (not in a religion)...
Without all three of those, baptizing a baby is a waste of perfectly good holy water...
Will reply in greater depth later...but here’s the immediate problem in the 3 part “iscool” formula you laid out...you cited 3 essentials...grace...repentance...faith in Christ...you prior to that cited 6 sections of Scripture ...and the either direct or indirect implication was that since baptism happened to be missing from those cherry picked verses...that baptism isn’t somehow an essential...Well you gotta major problem then with the first part of your “Iscool” formula: NONE of those scriptures you cited mentioned “grace”...by your own logic grace is not an essential!
Wanna ensure people see this kind of "logic" in action:
There are some common things that are required for salvation...One is God's grace...The next is repentance (turning to Jesus), and the last is Faith (not in a religion)...
OK, 3 requirements, says Iscool:
1. God's grace
2. Repentance (turning to Jesus)
3. Faith (beyond faith in a religion)
Now, let's review the six Biblical passages that Iscool selected to critique baptism...and apply them to #1 above:
Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
There's Matthew's version...
Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
That's Luke's version...No...
Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Conversion without
Act 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
No...
Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Again, no...
Act 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Repentance and Faith...Obviously...
Does this properly represent Paul's expressions on grace?
No.
This is an outright attempt at cherry-picking deception.
And all I had to do was change Iscool's use of the word "baptism" to "grace" to show you who the author of that deception was.
What a bunch of wingnuts...They misquote scripture and then ignore so much scripture it makes you think they are dishonest...
Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
There’s Matthew’s version...
Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
That’s Luke’s version...No babtism...
Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Conversion without baptism...
Act 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
No baptism...
Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Again, no baptism...
Act 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Repentance and Faith...Obviously baptism wasn’t profitable for Paul...
There are some common things that are required for salvation...One is God’s grace...The next is repentance (turning to Jesus), and the last is Faith (not in a religion)...
Without all three of those, baptizing a baby is a waste of perfectly good holy water...
That’s not scripture interpreting scripture. That’s taking a bunch of clear verses about faith, pitting them against other clear verses about baptism, and trying to make the verses about baptism go away. No one doubts that it’s possible to be saved without being baptized - but that doesn’t mean what the scriptures say baptism is and does isn’t true.
A more intellectually honest way would be okay all of these verses are true somehow, now how is that?