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To: Colofornian
As I just said, I'm not going to debate this with someone who understands baptism not at all, together with mixup of Spiritual birth, water baptism, and assent of the subject of baptism--a dogs-breakfast of disconnected Bible verses.

Now, tell me:
Does a person's "intellect" accomplish any of these things?

Yes.

1 John 1:9

One has to make rational choices.

I have to tell you that your position puts you in the dark, FRiend. You might want to look over a previous article with the title:

"The Baptism and The Filling: The Baptism in the Spirit and The Filling" which was posted earlier today. In it you'll find a discussion of Acts 2:38, the interpretation of which you have wrong, grammatically and doctrinally. That may help you, as will the chart at the beginning.

Ta da!

43 posted on 03/07/2015 2:10:37 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1; All
"The Baptism and The Filling: The Baptism in the Spirit and The Filling" which was posted earlier today. In it you'll find a discussion of Acts 2:38...

(Well, of course, if you're talking to parents you would emphasize repentance coupled with baptism!)

What's interesting is that the citers of Acts 2:38 don't really like to follow up with v. 39:

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

And...what's interesting with Acts 2:38 is how being baptized is so closely tied with the forgiveness of sins.

Only God can forgive sins. Only God is the true ACTOR in, with, and thru baptism.

46 posted on 03/07/2015 2:18:06 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: imardmd1; All
No one says, "don't make rational choices."

It's simply that our reason isn't "Lord."

Actually the author of this thread's article brings this out well...when he closes the article with this comment:

So in a sense, the teaching of infant baptism reveals who your Lord is. Lord Jesus Christ has commanded us to baptize all nations, has declared that everyone who dies without faith is damned, and has taught us that infants can believe by God's grace working through baptism. Lord Reason says, "I don't understand how a baby can believe, therefore I reject infant baptism. It makes more sense to me to do it my way." Which Lord will you obey? Will you obey Christ and baptize "all nations," including infants, even though you don't understand it? Or will you obey Reason and reject infant baptism because you don't understand how babies can believe? Which Lord will you obey?

48 posted on 03/07/2015 2:20:50 PM PST by Colofornian
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