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To: Colofornian; All
All that matters is how God views infant baptism.

Baptism by proper authority is necessary for repentance. It is the starting point where we enter the path leading to eternal life.

Little children, below the age of accountability, are not capable of committing sin, therefore do not need baptism. They are covered by the atonement of Jesus Christ.

To baptize a little child, in God's eyes, is to deny the atonement of Jesus Christ. Regardless of your intent, it is a grievous sin in the eyes of God.
128 posted on 03/08/2015 1:34:10 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper

That’s the most correct answer and the one that’s consistent with both the Old and New Testaments. Well done.


142 posted on 03/09/2015 4:54:33 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Little children, below the age of accountability, are not capable of committing sin, therefore do not need baptism.

I am sorry to inform you that there's apparently plenty of Scripture that you either pay no mind to or militate against:

What does the Old Testament reveal? What does the New Testament reveal? What early church father comments reveal about early church doctrine of sin nature – especially in regard to infant baptism?
Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me. (Ps. 51:5) 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to ALL people, because all sinned— … 18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for ALL people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.  19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. (Romans 5:12, 18-19) ”The prophets...tell us that a sacrifice for sin was offered even for new-born infants, as not being free from sin. They say, 'I was shaped in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me.' Also, 'They are estranged from the womb.' Which is followed by the singular expression,'They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.'” (Origen), 248 AD, 4.631
Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins. (Ecc. 7:20) ... for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Rom. 3:23) ”They ask that their reproach may be taken away—that is, that they might be cleansed from their sins. For the reproach is the original sin that is taken away in baptism. They then begin to be called Christians.” (Victorinus), 280 AD, 7.346 ; In baptism, the coarse garment of your birth is washed.” (Commodianus), 240 AD, 4.212
Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies. (Ps. 58:3) ... For the wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23) [My note: Notice Paul says “sin” singular … when you read Romans 6 + John 8:34, we see that “sin” is treated as a power (vs. “sins” plural – individual acts of wrongdoing)...If 7 yo kids & younger can die – yet if they are 100% innocent – then doesn't that make gods like the Mormon gods unjust if he says they can become subject to a death they don't choose? And yes, a perfect Jesus died, but he CHOSE that route for us. Young kids who die don't choose that route] ”Nobody is hindered from baptism and from grace. How much more should we shrink from hindering an infant. For he, being lately born, has not sinned – other than, in being born after the flesh according to Adam, he has contracted the contagion of the ancient death at its earliest birth. For this reason, he more easily approaches the reception of the forgiveness of sins. For to him are remitted—not his own sins—but the sins of another. Therefore, dearest brother, this was our opinion in council that no one should be hindered by us from baptism and from the grace of God.” (Cyprian), 250 AD, 5.354
Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one! (Job 14:4) -- ”No one is pure from defilement, not even if his life were but for one day.” [Job 14:4, 5, IXX].” (Clement of Alexandria), 195 AD 2.428

154 posted on 03/10/2015 4:36:22 AM PDT by Colofornian
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