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Mormon Nazis: New book uncovers LDS support for the Third Reich
Religionnews.com ^ | Feb. 19. 2015 | Jana Riess

Posted on 03/05/2015 4:44:32 PM PST by Colofornian

David Conley Nelson has spent years researching the LDS Church during the Third Reich, resulting in the new book Moroni and the Swastika: Mormons in Nazi Germany.

Though it’s not officially out until February 26, the book will be launched Sam Weller’s in Trolley Square, Salt Lake City, tomorrow evening.

It’s not right to say I “enjoyed” this book, because it was disturbing to discover how deeply some Mormons bought into Nazi ideology. But it’s required reading for anyone interested in Mormon history and the larger question of a religion’s responsibility to procure justice for the oppressed – even when it means putting that religion’s own institutional advancement at risk. — JKR

RNS: You note in the book that Mormons in the 1930s were not just tolerant of Hitler but downright enthusiastic about his policies, including things like getting rid of brothels and passing laws against homosexuality. Why were Mormons such strong supporters of Nazism?

David Conley Nelson: Ordinary Mormons were ordinary Germans. Hitler was very popular, so they supported the government. There’s nothing unusual about that. But also, the LDS mission presidents recognized the vulnerability that an American-led church had under this dictatorship, and they put together a program to formalize the church’s support of the government. By doing so, they resurrected the 12th Article of Faith, which the Mormons had not obeyed before during their history of missions in Germany. Between 1851 and 1918, Mormons had been banned in a lot of the German states, so to get around that they would register as English teachers, students, or commercial developers instead of as missionaries.

So in the 1930s the mission presidents formulated this program to keep the church safe, but then found opportunities that were too good to pass up, especially in genealogy. In the past they had been banned from German archives because pastors did not want their records used to baptize the dead as Mormons. But during the Reich, suddenly all these ordinary Germans had to prove their ancestors were not Jews, so the Church’s genealogy program experienced newfound freedom. By the time Nazi Germany was in full swing, just about every branch had a genealogical president, two counselors, and a secretary.

The shocking thing is that there seemed to be very little sensitivity to the racial reasons for genealogical research. Newspaper articles would appear in the Deseret News, bragging about how much success the Church was having in Germany with the new government. The same newspaper was also running AP articles about the plight of the Jews. So the Church knew what was going on in Germany, but emphasized cooperating with the Third Reich.

RNS: One of the sadder stories in the book is of LDS First Counselor J. Reuben Clark, whose anti-Semitism seems to have been off the charts. Even after the war, he was still handing out copies of the anti-Semitic tract “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”

Nelson: Mike Quinn says it best: J. Reuben Clark was an anti-Semite, but it was an anti-Semitism fueled by the xenophobia and nativism of the Progressive Era. Through his legal and business work Clark had the conflicting view that Jews were Communists on the one hand, but that they also embraced capitalism and were cheating in their businesses. I’ve seen no evidence that he changed his mind about Jews after the war.

RNS: In the final portion of the book you lay out the case of teenage activist Helmut Hübener, one of the few Mormons who opposed the Third Reich (and was ultimately executed for it). Was Hübener motivated by a desire to save the Jews?

Nelson: No. I have not found in the writings any evidence of his being philosemitic or ever denouncing what was happening to the Jews. Although Hübener can be considered an idealist, I think he saw the Jewish question as one where he could never persuade people. So many Germans were in agreement with Hitler about the Jews that he would have instantly lost his credibility with his German audience. I don’t think he was anti-Semitic, but he was pragmatic.

Hübener was motivated more by what he saw as Hitler’s influence coming into his own branch, the St. Georg branch in Hamburg, where the branch president and first counselor were Nazi enthusiasts and others were members of the SA and SS.

RNS: It seems plausible that after WWII, Mormon leaders would want to be seen as embracing Hübener’s story, but you note in the book that the Church actually suppressed a play and other writings about Hübener until the 1990s.

Nelson: Hübener is what I call the consummate memory beacon. He was someone whose story could be brightened or dimmed according to what was needed at the time after the war.

When the play originally happened at BYU in the tumultuous 1970s, there were some sensitivities. Some within the LDS hierarchy worried that Hübener’s story would motivate young Mormons in South America to rebel against their own governments.

Also, there was sensitivity at home. Some 4,000 German Mormons had emigrated after the war. Most of those people had suffered in the war, but some of them were perpetrators whose hands were dirty. Many didn’t like the Hübener story, because they embraced the 12th Article of Faith as justification for what they had done in the war: Good Latter-day Saints help the government and trust in God. They saw Hübener as a traitor.


TOPICS: Current Events; History; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: antichristian; inman; lds; mormon; nazis; thirdreich
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To: Elsie

Likewise; he spoils a good discussion by AVOIDING facts.


Nope, the thread was supposed to have the facts, but it didn’t.


121 posted on 03/06/2015 5:20:57 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: Elsie

It ain’t.

It’s about ANYTHING but the writings and teachings of Mormonism.


I think Colofornian is a closet Mormon with a weird complex. Or nutts.

There are the very words.


122 posted on 03/06/2015 5:25:37 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: Gamecock

LOL


123 posted on 03/06/2015 5:35:10 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ansel12

“The majority of EVANGELICAL Christians didn’t vote for Romney.

Huh? Evangelicals voted for him at the highest rate, by 79%, to 78% Romney support from Mormons.”

And millions of Evangelicals sat out the election to protest a Mormon candidate and gave the election to ....that other guy. How’d that work out?


124 posted on 03/06/2015 5:37:27 PM PST by StormPrepper
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To: Elsie
Only folks who KNOW what a heresy Mormonism is and are willing to spend time trying to avert another from being snared in it.

As opposed to what?

What church to do you belong to?
125 posted on 03/06/2015 5:40:30 PM PST by StormPrepper
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To: Elsie

In the MORMON worldview, Jews are called GENTILES.

Go figger...


Mormons do not refer to them selves as gentiles but I have never heard of them referring to a Jew as being a gentile except in cases where actual blood line is in question.

Many of the ones called Jews are not Jews by blood line but by conversion.

Gentile can mean some one of a different tribe.


126 posted on 03/06/2015 5:47:22 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: ansel12; Colofornian

I do not want to make any one mad but I consider both Protestant and Catholics and Mormons to be Christian.

And I also like to keep it simple, 77 percent of Americans claim to be Christian, (if you think they are or not is beside the point) this means that only 23 percent are not Christian, no way 23 percent of the voters could elect a communist president.

You can try breaking the numbers down any way you like but for some one on the out side counting up the numbers, that is the way it is.


127 posted on 03/06/2015 6:04:53 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: laplata

Whatever.


I may have misunderstood, I assumed you thought he wrote it, i was just saying he o0nly posted it , sorry.


128 posted on 03/06/2015 6:11:44 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: Rameumptom
More worrisome is my Grandpas take on America tight now. He is 96 now. About 4 years ago he sent a letter to the extended family stating that the America now (politically, media, propoganda) feels like his time in Germany in the late 1930's.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3264205/posts

129 posted on 03/06/2015 6:20:59 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Colofornian

Great article. Idiots begat idiots. Not a new story. Hecky durn...


130 posted on 03/06/2015 6:24:58 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: StormPrepper

Evangelical turnout was higher in 2012 than in 2008.

Are you of the Mormon religion? Why are you attacking Evangelicals?


131 posted on 03/06/2015 6:58:41 PM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ravenwolf

Mormonism is a religion, not a Christian denomination, and you are wrong about the majority of Christians voting for Obama.

The polling is done of voters, and they are asked what religion they are.


132 posted on 03/06/2015 7:00:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ravenwolf

Not to worry. Nothing against you. Thanks.


133 posted on 03/06/2015 7:01:34 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ansel12

Mormonism is a religion, not a Christian denomination


That makes the Christians look even worse, they did not need the help of the Mormons to vote the Communist in and they did not get it, as the Mormons voted for his opponent.

Christians excluding the Mormons make up almost 75 percent of the U.S population.

I am not a good mathematician so I don`t know how to blame the Jews at 4 percent or a smattering of others with less than 1 percent or those 16 percent who claim no belief.

So I do not see how it could have been any one except Christians who voted the communist in power.


134 posted on 03/06/2015 8:19:38 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: ravenwolf

Idiot.


135 posted on 03/06/2015 8:28:19 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: ravenwolf

You are just posting ridiculous nonsense.


136 posted on 03/06/2015 8:38:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: RedHeeler; ansel12

Red heathen wrote Idiot

ansel12 wrote You are just posting ridiculous nonsense


Well, come on then professors and tell me how you think Obamer got elected if the people who call them selves Christians did not vote for him.

You think you are so dam smart either put up or shut up.


137 posted on 03/07/2015 12:23:03 AM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: laplata; Jim Robinson
You’re wasting your time here.

Jim; how many hits does FR get in a day??

138 posted on 03/07/2015 4:01:29 AM PST by Elsie
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To: ravenwolf
Mormons do not refer to them selves as gentiles...

That's because they DON'T.


...but I have never heard of them referring to a Jew as being a gentile except in cases where actual blood line is in question.

That's because they do not refer to Jews directly.



Everyone who is not MORMON is refered to as a GENTILE.

139 posted on 03/07/2015 4:06:21 AM PST by Elsie
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To: StormPrepper
What church to do you belong to?

I attend a WESLEYAN congregation.

Does this info help?

140 posted on 03/07/2015 4:07:21 AM PST by Elsie
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