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Walking With Jesus as a Former Catholic
The Gospel Coalition ^ | October 16, 2009 | Kevin DeYoung

Posted on 03/03/2015 6:43:06 PM PST by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock
That’s how Chris Castaldo begins his helpful, irenic, and humorous book, Holy Ground: Walking with Jesus as a Former Catholic.


i·ren·ic
īˈrenik,īˈrē-/
adjective
formal
adjective: irenic; adjective: eirenic
  1. 1.
    aiming or aimed at peace.
noun
noun: irenics; noun: eirenics; noun: irenic; noun: eirenic
  1. 1.
    a part of Christian theology concerned with reconciling different denominations and sects.

21 posted on 03/04/2015 4:37:47 AM PST by Elsie
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To: ifinnegan

Me, too. I thought it was a typo for ironic. It would fit...


22 posted on 03/04/2015 4:39:27 AM PST by Elsie
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To: terycarl
Jesus is still Catholic!


Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

23 posted on 03/04/2015 4:40:35 AM PST by Elsie
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To: NKP_Vet
He’s despised by protestants because he converted.

Not this one!

Galatians 3:1 comes to mind...

24 posted on 03/04/2015 4:41:44 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Montana_Sam
Obviously hadn’t believed John 6.

 
 
 
 

 
Micah 6:8
He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.


John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?
 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."


1 John 3:21-23
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.
And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.


James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 

 
 
 

25 posted on 03/04/2015 4:43:25 AM PST by Elsie
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To: metmom
For all the Soon to be ex-Catholics out there ping.
26 posted on 03/04/2015 4:44:22 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Gamecock

“Irenity now!”


27 posted on 03/04/2015 4:54:24 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Gamecock; Mark17; aMorePerfectUnion; AlaskaErik; Talisker; CynicalBear; metmom; RnMomof7

So is Chris now one of those fanatics that doesn’t celebrate Christmas, Halloween or Easter?

Is he one that doesn’t put up a Christmas tree or have fun with his kids with Santa, the Easter Bunny or taking them trick-or-treating or celebrating their birthdays? Is he one that thinks carving a pumpkin or putting on a costume is evil? Or eating a Christmas dinner or putting up a nativity scene or dying Easter eggs? Or having a classroom party at his kids’ school so his kids have to sit out and miss the fun? He must be a real blast at the office Christmas party, too.

If he’s now one of these people that sits at home on these holidays reading his bible instead of doing these fun things with his family he’s going to have a hard time convincing me or a lot of other people that this is the new life for us.

I doubt Christ would even want to be a part of this group either.


28 posted on 03/04/2015 5:26:54 AM PST by ZagFan
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To: Larry Lucido

LOL!


29 posted on 03/04/2015 5:32:33 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: terycarl

...”Jesus is still Catholic!”....

Nah....Jesus is Jewish...and not only King of the Jews...but as our King having been grafted into the vine.


30 posted on 03/04/2015 5:33:40 AM PST by caww
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To: ZagFan

**So is Chris now one of those fanatics that doesn’t celebrate Christmas, Halloween or Easter?**

What in the world are you talking about?


31 posted on 03/04/2015 5:35:25 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: Gamecock

“...personal relationship with God that is more than just rule keeping...”

This man clearly never knew or bothered to properly understand his Catholicism if he thought it teaches just rule keeping without a relationship with the Lord. (By the way, I never saw more rules than evangelicals have: no drinking, no dancing, etc. etc.)

Catholics accept the Lord Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior, admit that they are sinners, and are clearly taught that without Jesus’ sacrifice no one obtains the grace to get to heaven.

For fellow Catholics: False Teaching Alert (2 Peter 2; 1-3): Here is the actual Church Doctrine without the anti-Catholic spin:

Salvation is not a single event that takes place once in time, and then is assured ever after. The bible says that we must believe to be saved, but it does not say that salvation is now guaranteed.

Salvation can be lost through sin and no amount of Luther’s tweaking of the bible is going to change that.

I had no idea there were so many bitter ex Catholics out there. In their hearts they know they are still full of sin and ONLY souls in a state of grace will get to heaven. No wonder they jumped ship (the barque of Peter) - the “get into to heaven free card” no matter how much they sin after they are “born again” is very enticing indeed! (and unbiblical)

Fellow Catholics: Don’t be tempted to follow Luther down the easy road into error.

Hebrews 10:26 is quite clear that we cannot sin with impunity - Salvation is NOT assured.


32 posted on 03/04/2015 5:43:07 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: ZagFan
>>If he’s now one of these people that sits at home on these holidays reading his bible instead of doing these fun things with his family he’s going to have a hard time convincing me or a lot of other people that this is the new life for us.<<

Well then you should just stay with your fun things. Or perhaps you could show us where Jesus and the apostles taught the celebration of Easter.

33 posted on 03/04/2015 6:07:45 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: stonehouse01; Gamecock
>>(By the way, I never saw more rules than evangelicals have: no drinking, no dancing, etc. etc.)<<

Say what?? When did they start that?

>>Salvation is NOT assured.<<

Ephesians 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession--to the praise of his glory.

I'm sorry to hear that Catholics don't have that guarantee.

34 posted on 03/04/2015 6:14:55 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: stonehouse01

** the “get into to heaven free card” no matter how much they sin after they are “born again” is very enticing indeed! (and unbiblical)**

Not to mention un-Protestant!


35 posted on 03/04/2015 6:28:00 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: NKP_Vet
When a man builds his ministry on lies it is nothing but wood , hay and stubble.. Scott lied about being a PCA minister to increase his "value" to Rome..

liar liar pants on fire ...and probably more unless he comes to Christ

36 posted on 03/04/2015 6:36:16 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: metmom

“Present “ :>)


37 posted on 03/04/2015 6:38:12 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: caww

Amen


38 posted on 03/04/2015 6:39:22 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy;

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.

For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.


39 posted on 03/04/2015 6:41:13 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: stonehouse01
Catholics accept the Lord Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior, admit that they are sinners, and are clearly taught that without Jesus’ sacrifice no one obtains the grace to get to heaven.
For fellow Catholics: False Teaching Alert (2 Peter 2; 1-3): Here is the actual Church Doctrine without the anti-Catholic spin: Salvation is not a single event that takes place once in time, and then is assured ever after.

Really ?? here is what Paul tells us in Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

The word saved here is the greek word "sōzō" it is a passive verb..an action on you..not through your own efforts..

Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.”

The perfect tense in Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as havingbeen completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eph&c=2&t=KJV#s=t_conc_1099008

The elect are those that HAVE been saved by Christ

Tit. 3:5-7: “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us [past tense], through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 Whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”

John 5:24 “I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.”

Stonehouse.. heaven will be as full of sinners as hell..the difference is those in heaven have a Savior

40 posted on 03/04/2015 7:11:13 AM PST by RnMomof7
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