Posted on 03/02/2015 3:10:55 PM PST by Legatus
Protestants, that feeling you may be having right now is what it feels like to be on the receiving end of thread after thread of anti-Catholicism.
To my fellow Catholics, this is an excerpt from a book that led me into the Catholic Church almost 20 years ago. THIS is what polemics looks like. This is not Scott Hahn/Tim Staples/Karl Keating/Patrick Madrid apologetics. This is EENS/you're all going to burn in hell material. I have shelves of this stuff, if necessary I'll post all of it. Certain posters seem to want to get down in the mud and splatter Catholicism with Protestant feculence, to which I respond http://youtu.be/nTY836hhY7o
Apparently one man’s Apostasy is another man’s Salvation.
I feel this practically everytime you guys post an article.
It is a joke that you believe only Catholics here are piled upon. Everytime you guys post an article - sometimes even in the headline - is a slam against other denominations. The condescending tones and backhanded insults are all over the place in your article posts.
That is the equivalent of saying what a Christian feels when a Muslim yells "Allahu Akbar"...absolutely nothing. We are simply trying to alert the victims of Rome that they are following another cult, a self-made, self-aggrandizing religion...not Jesus, alone, and your article does not dissuade that ambition one bit.
I asked a Catholic friend of mine what a mass was and he couldn’t answer. He said he thought it was the last supper, the crucifixion and the resurrection all rolled up together. Or something like that. Ha!
Interesting.
You oppose anti-Catholic threads and your solution is to post an anti-Protestant thread.
Upon which of Jesus Christ’s teachings is this behavior based?
27 “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” (-Love, Jesus!)
... After we accept the free gift of grace given to us through Jesus paying the price of our salvation we then begin a new life in Christ. When we accept Jesus into our heart He sends the Holy Spirit into us to begin our spiritual life in Christ. (2 Corinthians 1:21-22 NIV) Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, {22} set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. The Holy Spirit is given to us to be with us forever, the Holy Spirit is God in us. (John 14:16-17 NKJV) "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever; {17} "the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
The Holy Spirit teaches us truth from God, and directs us toward obeying God. Obedience to God is summed up by being in Love, Loving God and Loving people through the Spirit of Love. (1 Peter 1:22 NKJV) Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart. It is the work of the Holy Spirit that is transforming us and changing our will and our desires to walk in love and obedience to God. (Philippians 2:13 NLT) For God is working in you, giving you the desire to obey him and the power to do what pleases him. We can not walk in obedience by our own efforts, it is the work of the Holy Spirit in us that gives us the ability and the desire to love and obey. ...-seekgod.org
Example please
That is actually what they think it is.. The priest is another christ.. and he offers a bloodless sacrifice
Yep
You mean this is TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC theology.
I wouldn't post it as a reaction to the Protestant threads though. I would post it because it is the Truth.
From the very next line: “The presentation of Protestant tenets in the following pages will unveil the source of Protestant beliefs.”
Thank you for inviting me to post the rest of the book.
Sorry. He sounded so unsure I had to laugh. But you're saying he got it right? Wow.
My church has dozens and dozens of former Catholics. I am a former Catholic myself. I was the most serious Catholic in my entire family, but I didn't know Jesus.
The testimonies of our church's former Catholics are powerful. They were saved by the love and grace of Christ Himself. The Bible is very, very, very clear about what saves us, and it isn't ritual or the sacraments.
Someone who calls being save by Jesus Christ "grave sin" and "apostasy" puts you squarely in the camp of Lucifer, and against God Himself.
Good luck with that.
That's fine - bring it on.
Excellent.
No such thing as a priest or sacrifices in the New Testament church other than the priesthood of all believers and the sacrifice of praise to God. What Catholics call priests don't even qualify for any leadership position in the New Testament ekkelesia of Christ.
“Protestants, that feeling you may be having right now is what it feels like to be on the receiving end of thread after thread of anti-Catholicism.”
I want to say thank you for another opportunity for bible-believing Christians to share gospel truths with Roman Catholics. There is absolutely nothing that can be said here to shake my faith or upset me. I know what I believe and I know Whom I believe. I have that God-given peace that surpasses all understanding.
actually, usually it starts with a “church of nice” where the mass is meaningless, the “kiss of peace” greeting is chaotic and considered more important than the Eucharist, all the statues are gone and the church resembles the waiting room at the local airport, your children learn socialism in catechism or catholic school, and you start missing mass because you are not being fed spiritually.
Then you find a spirit filled church that feeds your soul, so you start going there.
Here in the Philippines, it’s even more complicated: Pope Francis got crowds, but still he didn’t see the real problem: That the clergy are from upper class families... and the “emphasis on the poor” that he spouts essentially means the poor are there for the rich to “help”, which locally translates to “you can take bribes, skim the top of the profits or from gov’t funds, seduce your employees and take drugs, but hey, if you give to the church and/or help the poor, you go to heaven”.
In contrast, the Protestant churches teach morality, honesty, and emphasize that the personal relationship to Jesus in a charismatic way is not enough: You need to also “walk the walk”...which is why many in the middle class are becoming protestant, and many of the poor, especially in cities, are finding that following Christ in the biblical way is not only the way to heaven, but will help you be successful in your daily life, i.e. in a job and in family life.
If I remain a Catholic, it is because of the Eucharist, and because the traditional Catholic approach to God sees his glory in everything (the heavens proclaim the glory of God) and that I am old enough to remember when they taught the “little way” of doing every small deed for love of God.
not to mention that my protestant relatives are honest, but if a poor person comes to the door with a request for emergency funds, they are skin flints, with the idea that if the poor just got out and got a job, they wouldn’t have to ask for help.
I guess God need both types.
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