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From Fundamentalist Baptist to Catholic – Steve Wilson’s Story
http://www.catholic-convert.com/ ^ | February 26, 2015 | Steve Wilson

Posted on 03/01/2015 4:54:44 PM PST by NKP_Vet

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To: terycarl
Actually, in the context that we are discussing, Jesus says that the fruit of the vine is His blood.

No he didn't...In the context Jesus said the fruit of the vine which he called blood is still the fruit of the vine...

Jesus said the cup is the blood...Then Jesus said the cup is the testament in his blood...And lastly, Jesus calls it the fruit of the vine...

Just as the apostle Paul acknowledges that the bread,,,is bread and the wine is wine...

It's interesting, or should be that Jesus never said the bread and wine continued to look and taste like bread and wine but it was really flesh and blood...That's a Catholic thing...Not a Jesus thing...Jesus never said anything about the substance of those things changing while the appearance and characteristics stayed the same...

If Jesus was being literal, there should have been a slab of flesh and a cask of blood sitting there...All that transubstantiation stuff was made up by your religion since it could not change bread and wine into flesh and blood...

801 posted on 03/03/2015 4:41:50 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Elsie
I'll stick with the Catholic church, they have about 1,950 more years of experience that you do....

Then I can say you'll probably 'stick' with Obama; for he has LOTs more 'experience' at being President than you do.

That's about the worst attempt at an analogy as I've ever seen....you're slipping!

802 posted on 03/03/2015 5:07:54 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: Elsie
Let's try some easy math:

WOW...3 in a row....naughty Popes, whatever that other thing is, and Mary's time line.

I told you before that Mary, being assumed bodily into Heaven, is no longer restrained by mere time constraints.

An hour is like a thousand years is like 15 seconds....something like that...anyway time, as we know it, does not apply in Heaven......I think that you're just putting us on....you probably knew that all by yourself!!!!

803 posted on 03/03/2015 5:13:57 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: terycarl
...anyway time, as we know it, does not apply in Heaven...

This conjecture, any proof?
804 posted on 03/03/2015 5:20:16 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: NELSON111
but there is ZERO they would recognize in the Catholic Church. It looks NOTHING like the church set up by Paul...Peter...and the Apostles.

Well....O.K....we do have nicer buildings...seldom use caves anymore. Air conditioning was a definite advantage...we now have music too. The confessionals in most churches are pretty much enclosed for privace....we had, but eliminated communion rails unlike the Apostles who were just sitting around a table (pictures show them all on one side but I doubt the accuracy of that)The priests wear liturgical vestments but I don't think that they are totally necessary....they don't wear them on the battlefield....The Pope has a much nicer residence than did Peter when he was Pope, but I guess that's just modern progress. Liturgically and scripturally speaking...nothing has changed.

805 posted on 03/03/2015 5:22:10 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: Resettozero; terycarl; Elsie

“This conjecture, any proof?”

” Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time onward until His enemies be made a footstool for His feet.”

Oops! Guess that shows there is no wall of separation between heaven & time...


806 posted on 03/03/2015 5:23:35 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Elsie
Unlearned Catholics say that PETER was the Rock...

And for all these years I thought that it was Christ who said that Peter was the Rock....live and learn...FR is great!

807 posted on 03/03/2015 5:25:22 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: Elsie
Arthur McGowan.

You forgot to ping him...

808 posted on 03/03/2015 5:27:21 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: metmom
Wrong because without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins. Water can’t do it because it’s the wrong thing for doing it.

Slept a lot during religion class did you??

Baptism by water and the spirit cleanses us from the stain of ORIGINAL sin...that of Adam, hence mankind....remember now???

809 posted on 03/03/2015 5:31:15 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: Elsie
Thanks to ScoutMaster for all the hard work here!

They have such a long way to go to catch up to protestants....but give them credit, they are trying!

810 posted on 03/03/2015 5:35:51 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: Elsie
You even called him “demonic”. Like your first pope? Get thee behind me; SATAN...

Oh, I think St. Pete will be able to fend for himself....probably didn't even have to serve time in Purgatory for that...

811 posted on 03/03/2015 5:38:30 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: terycarl
And for all these years I thought that it was Christ who said that Peter was the Rock

This is the interpretation of Scripture that Roman catholics maintain is what Jesus meant. Comparing Scripture with Scripture, it becomes evident RCs (and others) have misappropriated the words of Jesus and, by church practices and doctrines over time, His intent.

Some of Lord Jesus Christ's Church which He founded may be contained within spheres of Catholic influence. MOST of the members of His Church (His Body here on earth) are outside the Catholic hierarchy's purview.


812 posted on 03/03/2015 5:39:15 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: metmom; Elsie
There's these guys..... Top 10 Most Wicked Popes

Good grief metmom...Elsie has already posted that nonsense on this thread two or three times.....in over 2,000 years there have to be a few jackasses in the crowd....this country is only about 250 years old and we are rapidly catching up...

813 posted on 03/03/2015 5:42:34 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: terycarl; Iscool
Actually, in the context that we are discussing, Jesus says that the fruit of the vine is His blood.

So now Jesus has grape juice flowing though His veins?

814 posted on 03/03/2015 5:45:32 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: CynicalBear
The rest of us realize it's not the same God at all.

How many Gods do you suppose there are??

815 posted on 03/03/2015 5:45:36 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: terycarl

Then religion class teaches differently than Scripture.

I’ll stick with Scripture.


816 posted on 03/03/2015 5:49:03 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie
.Catholicism is not a denomination...it is pure Christianity.... And it PRODUCES only the VERY BEST leaders; too!

Christ picked 1/12 of His followers as a loser....

817 posted on 03/03/2015 5:49:19 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: Elsie
Catch any?

Yup, married her 11/11/61 so far so good.

818 posted on 03/03/2015 5:52:17 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: Elsie
So why did you all leave his church in the 1500’s? You are not familiar with the 95 reasons?

Yeah, read them....still not enough for me to surrender my soul to the teachings of a dissident fallen away Catholic priest...

95 reasons is all it took for you????.....wow

819 posted on 03/03/2015 5:56:37 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
that we’re all baptized Catholic. No we aren’t

yes you were!

820 posted on 03/03/2015 5:59:36 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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