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To: Lake Living; fso301

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John Wallvoord, and Richard Mayhue may wish that the post trib resurrection were not specifically taught in scripture; they dedicated their lives to rejecting the scriptures that so teach, but there is no other possibility satisfying Matthew 24, 1Corinthians 15, 2Thessalonians 2, and the entire book of Revelation, but a resurrection at the 7th trump, before the bowl judgements.

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79 posted on 02/28/2015 7:57:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I don’t think the rapture is post-trib. Christ said he would cut short (amputate) that time of suffering for the sake of the elect. That doesn’t mean the 7 yr. period is cut short - just the persecution of the elect by antichrist. My point was that Wallvoord and Mayhue both stated that the pre-trib was not specifically taught by scripture. My other point is that those closest to the Apostles most likely had it correct - the church would be tested at the end by the persecution of antichrist. Unless I’m misunderstanding you, what of the Ante Nicene fathers views? There is a rapture. I believe it is between the 6 and 7 seals. Just before God’s Day of the Lord wrath. The first 5 ch. of Rev. are a warning to the churches of what is to come and to get ready for it - as is the Olivet Discourse. Why would Christ warn about it to the church if they would not experience it? I don’t think Christ was warning the nation of Israel as they will enter the 70th week in unbelief and not believe until (like Joseph’s brothers on their 2nd visit) Christ reveals Himself to them. Then they get it and then they mourn. Personally, I don’t think there will be many American Christians left as I believe America is coming under God’s judgement and I don’t think there will be many of us left to know which view - pre-trib or pre-wrath is correct. We’ll be trying to escape with our lives from the American jihad and Obama’s reeducation camps ;- ) The really important thing in all of this discussion is to stay on the cross and let Christ rule in our hearts and lives. I don’t like it much but the word witness is very closely associated with the word martyr. Anyway, God bless as you work out your salvation with fear and trembling.


96 posted on 03/01/2015 5:05:24 AM PST by Lake Living
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