[metmom]

Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

I don't know how it could be stated more plainly or clearly.

And yet, people who want to depend on their own works to get them to heaven will fight it kicking and screaming.....

And then when they are judged by those works, they'll be thrown into hell kicking and screaming.

It's GOD who justifies the ungodly, not the ungodly themselves. They CAN'T justify themselves. There is simply no way a sinner can attain right standing before a holy God without it being given to him in a judicial pardon.

[CynicalBear]

>>There is simply no way a sinner can attain right standing before a holy God without it being given to him in a judicial pardon.<<

It's man's pride that wants to take at least some of the credit. Those that preach faith and works preach to tickle those ears.

[Elsie]

I don't know how it could be stated more plainly or clearly.

By making it...

...BIGGER!!!

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Romans 4:5

[Elsie]

Yep...

...it's in the Catholic book; too!

Romans 4:5 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

But to him that worketh not, yet believeth in him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is reputed to justice, according to the purpose of the grace of God.