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To: af_vet_1981; xone; daniel1212

My point? You have none. Given the history of your own Popes and bishops and anti-semitism you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Luther nor did Popes write Scriptures.

So based on your line of argument, you shoot yourself in the foot.

Rome acted on their anti-semitism.

I don’t know what happened. You used to be a reasoned poster on FR. I enjoyed our exchanges even though we did not agree at times.

So I will say once again...Luther is not my Pope and he is not the source of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. My salvation, as should be your’s, is at the foot of Calvary and the Empty Tomb of Jesus Christ.

If you want to discuss the Holy Spirit Inspired Holy Scriptures, I will continue this dialogue. If not, we have no more to discuss.


65 posted on 02/25/2015 6:26:28 AM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: redleghunter
My point? You have none. Given the history of your own Popes and bishops and anti-semitism you don’t have a leg to stand on.

It seems to me that is an implicit endorsement of antisemitism.

Luther nor did Popes write Scriptures.

The author invoked Luther, and you invoked the author.
In April, 1521, Martin Luther appeared before his ecclesiastical accusers at the Diet of Worms. They had given him the ultimatum to repudiate his unwavering faith in the sufficiency and perspicuity of the Scriptures. Luther is said to have responded, “Unless I am convicted by Scripture and plain reason–I do not accept the authority of popes and councils, for they have contradicted each other–my conscience is captive to the Word of God… God help me! Here I stand.”

Like Martin Luther, may we rise above the doubts within and confront the threats without when God’s Word is assailed. God help us to be loyal contenders of the faith. Let us stand with God and the Scripture alone.

So based on your line of argument, you shoot yourself in the foot.

I have kept my integrity.

Rome acted on their anti-semitism.

Undoubtably; perhaps a million were slaughtered and the residue sold into slavery. Reformers celebrate to this at what Jews mourn.

I don’t know what happened. You used to be a reasoned poster on FR. I enjoyed our exchanges even though we did not agree at times.

You posted an article appealing to Luther..

So I will say once again...Luther is not my Pope and he is not the source of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. My salvation, as should be your’s, is at the foot of Calvary and the Empty Tomb of Jesus Christ.

Then do not defend him; remain silent. Perhaps you did not read the article you posted and did not see the author's syncophntic appeal to the vile antisemite Luther.

In any event Luther is foundational to the so called Reformation, selecting which books were to be in his bible and mistranslating on purpose to support his new doctrines. He is not the last rebel to adopt this tack.

If you want to discuss the Holy Spirit Inspired Holy Scriptures, I will continue this dialogue. If not, we have no more to discuss.

Your choice; own your words.

81 posted on 02/25/2015 7:18:43 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: redleghunter
Luther nor did Popes write Scriptures

And while both are invoked for support, both have things which impugn their character, but which for RCs is more critical, as they are far more leadership-intensive, as seen by the daily posts on the pope for months.

And if Luther has letters were invoked by Nazis, Rome has actions and provided much for antisemitism. But cultic defenders of Rome only see what is in someone else's eye.

In The Popes Against the Jews : The Vatican's Role in the Rise of Modern Anti-Semitism, historian David Kertzer notes,

“the legislation enacted in the 1930s by the Nazis in their Nuremberg Laws and by the Italian Fascists with their racial laws—which stripped the Jews of their rights as citizens—was modeled on measures that the [Roman Catholic] Church itself had enforced for as long as it was in a position to do so” (9). More in part 5 of a series (1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5, 6 . And see here .

125 posted on 02/25/2015 12:30:45 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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