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How We Got the Bible
For the Love of His Truth ^ | May 19, 2012 | John MacArthur

Posted on 02/24/2015 7:04:16 PM PST by redleghunter

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To: redleghunter

There is hypocrisy on this thread? Say it ain’t so Joe!


161 posted on 02/25/2015 7:43:41 PM PST by xone
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To: mrobisr

Where We Got the Bible: Our Debt to the Catholic Church

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/wbible.htm

This little book about the Bible grew out of lectures which the writer delivered on the subject to mixed audiences. The lectures were afterwards expanded, and appeared in a series of articles in the Catholic press 1908-9, and are now with slight alterations reprinted. Their origin will sufficiently account for the colloquial style employed throughout.

There is, therefore, no pretence either of profound scholarship or of eloquent language; all that is attempted is a popular and, as far as possible, accurate exposition along familiar lines of the Catholic claim historically in regard to the Bible. It is candidly controversial without, however, let us hope, being uncharitable or unfair.

Friends had more than once suggested the reissue of the articles; and it appeared to the writer that at last the proper moment for it had come when the Protestant world is jubilating over the Tercentenary of the Authorised Version. Amidst the flood of literature on the subject of the Bible, it seemed but right that some statement, however plain and simple, should be set forth from the Catholic side, with the object of bringing home to the average mind the debt that Britain, in common with the rest of Christendom, owes to the Catholic Church in this connection. Probably the motive of the present publication will be best understood by a perusal of the following letter from the writer which appeared in the Glasgow Herald, 18th March, 1911:—

THE BIBLE CENTENARY AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

AMID the general jubilation over the three hundredth anniversary of the appearance of King James’s version of the Bible, I think it would be a pity if we did not make mention of that great Church to which, under God, we owe our possession of the sacred Scriptures—I mean of course, the Roman Catholic Church. Without striking one single jarring note, I hope, in the universal chorus, yet I feel it would be rather ungenerous, and indeed historically unjust, did we not turn our eyes at least in passing to that venerable figure standing in the background surveying our celebrations, and, as it were, saying, ‘Rejoice over it, but remember it was from me you got it’. As a Scotsman, who cannot forget that it is the Bible that has made Scotland largely what she is today, I yield to no one in veneration of the inspired Scriptures and in admiration of the incomparably beautiful Authorised Version. Still, honour to whom honour. We shall only be awarding a just meed of praise and gratitude if we frankly and thankfully recognise that it is to a council (or councils) of the R.C. Church that we owe the collection of the separate books into our present Canon of the New Testament, and that to the loving care and devoted labour of the monks and scholars of that Church all through the ages we are indebted, not only for the multiplication and distribution of the sacred volume among the faithful when as yet no printing press existed, but even for the preservation of the Book from corruption and destruction. It is, then, undoubtedly true to say that, in the present order of Providence, it is owing to the Roman Catholic Church that we have a Bible at all. And no one will be a bit the worse Christian and Bible­lover if he remembers this notable year that it is to the Mother Church of Christendom he must look if he would behold the real preserver, defender, and transmitter of the ‘Word that endureth for ever.’—

HENRY GREY GRAHAM, Catholic Priest, former Protestant


162 posted on 02/25/2015 9:56:58 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: redleghunter

Have we kissed Rome’s; uh; ring yet this morning for the gift of the Bible?


163 posted on 02/26/2015 3:14:07 AM PST by Elsie
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To: redleghunter
Now the Scripture certainly has more than enough content to be interrogated, considering that it’s comprised of 66 books, 1,189 chapters, 31,173 verses, and 774,746 words.

I think that there is only ONE 'translation' that all this data fits.

164 posted on 02/26/2015 3:15:31 AM PST by Elsie
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To: doc1019; redleghunter

165 posted on 02/26/2015 3:22:14 AM PST by Elsie
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To: NKP_Vet

This thread should be deleted.


166 posted on 02/26/2015 3:23:50 AM PST by Elsie
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To: redleghunter

What has ENOCH to do with SALVATION?


167 posted on 02/26/2015 3:25:13 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Zionist Conspirator
...but the external proof from G-d Himself at Mt. Sinai.

That is recorded in a book!

;^)

168 posted on 02/26/2015 3:26:03 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Salvation

"We are compelled to concede to the Papists
that they have the Word of God,
that we received it from them,
and that without them
we should have no knowledge of it at all."

~ Martin Luther
 
"We are compelled to concede to the three Portugese children,
that they have had multiple visions of Mary,
that we received it from them,
and that without them
we should have a LOT less knowledge of what
Our Blessed Lady of the Perpetual Headache wants us to do."

Modern Rome

169 posted on 02/26/2015 3:29:32 AM PST by Elsie
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To: CynicalBear
Well, then let’s give praise to man, always man, right?




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Praise to the Man!
 
 
 
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


170 posted on 02/26/2015 3:34:33 AM PST by Elsie
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To: xone; af_vet_1981
The Nazis greatly admired Luther,


171 posted on 02/26/2015 3:37:24 AM PST by Elsie
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To: NYer
His reference states that these are the only recognized writings to be read in a church service.

Who died and made HIM pope?

172 posted on 02/26/2015 3:39:17 AM PST by Elsie
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To: editor-surveyor
God’s word is always a “rabbit trail” to those that refuse to live by it.

Let's cut to the chase; shall we??



 
 
 
 

 
Micah 6:8
He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.


John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?
 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."


1 John 3:21-23
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.
And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.


James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 

 
 
 

173 posted on 02/26/2015 3:40:47 AM PST by Elsie
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To: NKP_Vet

Not a helpful comment, Vet. Throughout that entire article there was not one mention of the Catholic Church. The author didn’t bash, belittle, or bemoan anything dealing with the RCC. He posted his ideas.

Your comment, on the other hand, does all of the above to include a personal attack on the author.

And it is wrong. John MacArthur, being a traditional protestant, would have no regard for the Catholic Church and some of its doctrines, nor would he give the RCC credit for writing the Bible, but those are not unusual or outrageous positions. They are called DISAGREEMENTS, and he has listed his reasons.

We bible believers tend to view the bible as a message brought to us by our Commander and delivered by a messenger. Once the Commander’s message is shown to be from him, then it is Him and His message that is to be followed and NOT any messenger who delivered the message.


174 posted on 02/26/2015 3:41:00 AM PST by xzins (I Donated to the Freep-a-Thon - You Should, Too! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: metmom
Y’all ought to make up your collective minds on what you want your words to mean so everyone can keep track of what page y’all are on.

Say the secret word...



 


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  


175 posted on 02/26/2015 3:43:04 AM PST by Elsie
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To: don-o
Martin Luther disagreed with God Rome on this.
176 posted on 02/26/2015 3:43:43 AM PST by Elsie
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To: NKP_Vet
Always count on a fallen away Catholic for a good laugh.

Always count on a current Catholic pope's public statements for a lot of eye-rolling by some FR Catholics.

177 posted on 02/26/2015 3:45:37 AM PST by Elsie
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To: mrobisr
That Scripture is the Holy Spirit screaming at you come out of her and save yourself.

I've heard something similar...





 
"Joseph; I advise you not to go to that jail."
 
"Darn gnats!!"
 
 
"Joseph; I'm telling you to not to go to that jail."
 
"Flies are BAD today!!"
 
 
"Joseph; It ain't gonna be pretty if you ignore me and go to that jail!"
 
"Crummy mosquitos are EVERYWHERE!!!"
 
 
"Joseph!  Do NOT go to that jail!"
 
"And those bedbugs really savaged me last night, too!"
 
 
"JOSEPH!!  Wake up boy!   Do Not Go To That JAIL!!!"
 
"All right Sheriff - here I am, so give me a nice room while my Lawyer, my Advocate, my Comforter presents the LAW to the Judge and I am VINDICATED!!!"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


178 posted on 02/26/2015 3:47:43 AM PST by Elsie
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To: xzins
And it is wrong. John MacArthur, being a traditional protestant, would have no regard for the Catholic Church and some of its doctrines, nor would he give the RCC credit for writing the Bible,

Yes. I have noted in this thread that JM makes no mention at all of the Roman Catholic Church.

Yet he DOES mention "the church" in regards to how writings were received as Holy Scripture. I snipped the section in my post 59 and asked a simple question about it.

I will now ask: What church is he talking about? Where was it located then and now? Where is the record of what they did and who was involved?

179 posted on 02/26/2015 3:56:10 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Elsie; metmom

If you cared to be fair and intellectually honest, you would have noted the context of my comment that you mangled. I was responding to an assertion that metmon made.

Perhaps you do not believe that God had anything to do with the transmission of Holy Scripture? (I get a lot more of what you don’t believe and little of what you do believe from your scatter shot posting style)


180 posted on 02/26/2015 4:04:49 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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