Posted on 02/24/2015 3:56:55 PM PST by RnMomof7
Amazing, isn’t it? That’s the difference between the two —
Christians claim Christ, Catholics don’t. They claim Catholicism.
Sad.
Hoss
And, yes, AMg is correct. It is an anti catholic site. I’m on record as having stated so
Debate? Not with people who deal in feelings and old false teachings and refuse to reference the facts
Really...ya still have to do burn time for them ..so are they REALLY forgiven ???
My God promises this ... As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.ps 103:12
"I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.Isaiah 43:25
No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."Jeremiah 31:34
Then he adds: "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more."Hebrews 10:17
The promise of God is when we repent and come to the throne of God for Mercy He will remember it no more.. on the other hand the "forgiveness" the priest gives requires burn time ..the Roman God never forgets
Hebrews 4:15For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin. 16Therefore let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.
depends on your definition of "christians"
It is sad. So many put their faith and trust in that “church” putting so much between themselves and Jesus who gave Hid life for us.
Here is an article about the healing that can be received from experiencing reconciliation:
The silence truly had been golden. I hadn’t heard or spoken many words for a couple of days — save for at the Liturgy of the Hours in the chapel. The immersion in the silence had been one of the most special, holiest gifts I could receive.
That had been one of the overriding reasons my two friends and I chose the monastery in rural Missouri for our retreat. The weekend at Assumption Abbey would provide us the opportunity to pray the Divine Office with the Trappist monks who lived there. It was a “personal-directed” retreat, which meant we could do whatever we wanted: pray, read, attend Mass, take in nature.
The silence was a powerful attraction, too. I definitely didn’t expect to hear God communicate to me audibly — using the words of a Vietnamese monk.
In addition to the promised silence of the retreat, my friends and I also knew we would enjoy the sacrament of reconciliation. For me, no retreat is complete without that sacrament.
So on that August Saturday, I humbly entered the room — much larger than your average confessional, a room with wood-paneled walls that served as a library and dining room most of the time. The priest sat waiting for me at the table. Once he spoke, in his Vietnamese accent, his initial words caught my attention in a way I never had experienced.
“All the angels and saints in heaven are rejoicing,” he said, “because one sinner is about to repent.”
Suddenly, my attitude changed.
I had spent the previous half-hour or so in prayerful preparation for my confession. I went through an examination of conscience; I took an inventory of my sins. I have come to accept the last few years that it’s foolish for me to expect perfection of myself — though occasionally I have to remind myself forcefully of that — and in that acceptance, the love of Jesus makes its greatest impact.
“I have sinned.”
The surest sign of God working in your life comes when you sit down with a priest, say those words and genuinely mean them. Feeling anything less is merely sorrow for making foolish mistakes. Children typically perceive the sacrament at that basic level: coming up with a list of committed sins and then rattling off those “foolish mistakes.”
In Psalm 51, David writes: “Against you alone have I sinned.” That’s subtly yet profoundly different from merely admitting mistakes that have broken a rule. One concept is that sins are wrongdoings against the Church, against the people of God. Then there is the concept of sin not as a wrongdoing but as a wrong being. It’s a state of choosing separation from God, a determined independence on anything other than Him.
A true examination of conscience involves both concepts. That isn’t a fun activity. Whether kneeling in a church or sitting on a comfy couch in a monastery, accepting the fact that you have purposely chosen to turn away from God at times is a painful admission. When you confess sin, you’re admitting to a fault, acknowledging guilt.
Most of my reconciliation experiences the past 35 or so years have been powerful. The idea of recognizing my sinfulness and mentally creating the inventory of the times I had hurt God was intimidating, and the guilt often overwhelmed me emotionally. In receiving absolution, though, I found a formal freeing of those sins that stretched beyond mere forgiveness. I knew that God had completely forgotten everything.
In those moments, God and I had been reconciled, somewhat similar to a couple of friends settling a quarrel. Our lives were back in harmony. I can’t describe how good that felt. The world actually looked different, brighter.
But when the Trappist priest welcomed me into the room that day, when he referenced Jesus’ words in the 15th chapter of Luke’s Gospel, he made me understand the true impact of the sacrament. I was about to receive absolution and have my slate wiped clean.
Indeed, heaven was far from silent. Angels and saints and God Himself were rejoicing — amazingly, all because of me.
Psalm 32:5 I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.
Jesus told us where to go for forgiveness.
Luke 11:4 Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation."
Go boldly before the throne of God and ask forgiveness as Jesus told us to. Not to some stand in.
You are refuting the words of Jesus and with Old Testament old covenant readings
At the very least you are wasting your time.
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness”
John was addressing non believers here who denied they were sinners and in need of a savior. If we need spiritual deliverance we address those needs through Jesus. Confession to a priest is works.
1 John 1:7
“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”
Ephesians 2:8 - “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”
Ephesians 2:9 “Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
You come on to her thread and tell her to go away?
Catholics are control freaks if ever I saw one.
As someone else pointed out. If it doesn't sing the high praises of Catholicism to heaven, then it's *anti-Catholic* or *Catholic bashing*.
Nobody forced you to come on this thread and read it so the wasting your time is YOUR doing, not hers.
Some mighty thin skin out there, whinging about, of all things, scriptural truth.
Hoss
It appears that this piece was written sometime in the 1800’s by an Anglican bishop. Do not Anglicans observe the sacrament of confession?
I’m no Catholic and I’ll never understand confessing sins to a mortal.
IS is combing the middle east slaughtering fellow muslims who don’t adhere to their brand of Islam.
Christians, love one another!
Those poor adolescent boys who have to confess their self abuse to some priest on the other side of the lattice.
Some Anglicans do.
My grandfather (arrived at Ellis Island in 1908) went into a church in New York for confession. As soon as he started (using the Catholic formula) the priest told him he was in an Anglican church.
■ I missed Mass once.
■ Did you have a good reason?
■ There was a blizzard and you didn't have Mass.
Besides being commanded by Jesus Christ (John 20:23), confession to a priest is an antidote to self-deception. It is also an opportunity for the priest to correct scrupulosity and to relieve consciences.
Finally, and most important, it provides the assurance of forgiveness when contrition is not perfect. The penitent is relieved of the burden of reviewing his mental states: Was my contrition perfect or imperfect? Imperfect contrition suffices for absolution.
Satan is surely pleased (if anyone in Hell can be "pleased") by the success the heresiarchs have had in depriving hundreds of millions of people of the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.
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