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To: CynicalBear

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The Jesus of scripture most assuredly saves. Just because someone says Jesus doesn’t mean it’s the Jesus of scripture. God the Son.
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The Mormons and Catholics are talking and worshiping this Jesus.

I don’t have a problem with their “brother of Satan” theology. Where did Satan come from? If Christ is The Son of Man then we are His Brothers.

Getting a doctrine wrong does not a sinner make nor condemn a person to Hell. Believing that the Host is the body of Jesus may be stupid to believe but it does not condemn. There is much we see dimly now but when He comes again it will be clear, this is simply one of the dim things.

As far as this “many gods theme” that gets paraded around here. I would ask this as a Christian. If Christ is The Son of God and will or has inherited all that His Father has does that not make Him God? If man accepts Christ and Christ says man will inherit all He has, what is it that man will not inherit? Godhood? I just don’t see the problem with this theology. I think the problem is semantics. Some words and ideas sound bad but when you think about it to the rest of the universe of souls that don’t follow Christ, His followers in Heaven will be as gods. They will never be God but angels they will not be, they will be like Him.


469 posted on 02/23/2015 8:39:45 AM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig
>>The Mormons and Catholics are talking and worshiping this Jesus.<<

Um....No they are not. Nor is the Jesus the Muslims talk about the Jesus of scripture.

>>I don’t have a problem with their “brother of Satan” theology.<<

Satan is not God. Jesus is. Ergo, Jesus is NOT Satan's brother.

>>If Christ is The Son of God and will or has inherited all that His Father has does that not make Him God?<<

I don't know what Jesus you are talking about. The Jesus of scripture and the Jesus I serve is God, has always been God. I can tell from what you say that the Jesus you speak of is NOT the Jesus Christ of scripture.

470 posted on 02/23/2015 9:27:11 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: JAKraig
As far as this “many gods theme” that gets paraded around here.

Listen...

Is that a brass band I hear in the distance?


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.



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495 posted on 02/23/2015 11:48:23 AM PST by Elsie
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