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Is The Roman Catholic View of the Eucharist Supported by the Historical Evidence?
In Plain Site ^ | Jason Engwer

Posted on 02/20/2015 12:33:03 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: cuban leaf
Didn’t someone nail something to a church door over just that issue?

Yeah, a dissident priest.....wrong then, wrong now, wrong forever.

61 posted on 02/20/2015 2:22:12 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: LurkingSince'98
Methinks you do not understand that God exists outside of time and sace.

Methinks you ignore my post to you on this subject and respond to another FReeper as if you had not been informed of your error.
62 posted on 02/20/2015 2:24:30 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: CynicalBear
And you still have a Jesus that sinned by eating blood.

When I was a Baptist, I was taught that the little cup of grape juice symbolized Jesus' Blood. Why, do you suppose, the Baptists would be promoting a "symbol" of a sinful practice?

63 posted on 02/20/2015 2:25:27 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: terycarl
Yeah, a dissident priest.....wrong then, wrong now, wrong forever.

Yes, a Roman Catholic priest.
64 posted on 02/20/2015 2:25:38 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Arthur McGowan
What proof? There's nothing scriptural about Roman Catholic Cultism! The only thing that the Roman Cult does is make up their own "Holy Tradition."

Scripture, which your Cult claims to have written, does not in one shred support Romish teachings. I've pointed out multiple times instances where the Catechism of the Catholic Cult contradicts scripture.

My statement may have been gratuitous... however, it doesn't change the FACT that Roman Catholic Cultism is bilge. It is bereft of theological support. It's a lie. A False Gospel.

Hoss

65 posted on 02/20/2015 2:26:32 PM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: LurkingSince'98
Evidentially you are confusing yourself with God

There is a LOT of that confusion all over the RF.

66 posted on 02/20/2015 2:27:44 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: terycarl
It must be very, very, very sad to be a protestant..

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Think about the puritanism that American Protestantism came from, what a gloomy bunch of haters they must have been. Their spiritual descendents are merely holding fast to their traditions.

67 posted on 02/20/2015 2:28:13 PM PST by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Resettozero

Heil Marys? LOL When did Mary become Hitler? And I can’t even walk forward all that will with this polio! Now backwards? Sure glad I follow Jesus alone! He simply said “your sins are forgiven”!


68 posted on 02/20/2015 2:29:51 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: don-o
When I was a Baptist...

Once a Baptist, always a Baptist, just as several RCC members on this Religion Forum have preached to former RCC members regarding their once being a Catholic?

(Glad to hear the news of her ongoing recovery.)
69 posted on 02/20/2015 2:31:10 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
If one doesn’t have a Pope or some such body that is occasionally inerrant, then some people have a need to be personally inerrant all the time, and that takes a great deal of energy.

Nope. Guess again.

Guess again....O.K., without an inerrant leader, we all get to decide on what the truth is...yeah, that'll work real well....20,000 or so different ideas of what the truth is should lead to no confusion whatsoever.....I guess....PATHETIC

70 posted on 02/20/2015 2:31:36 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: don-o
>>Why, do you suppose, the Baptists would be promoting a "symbol" of a sinful practice?<<

There is no accounting for error. Error is error no matter where you find it. Jesus still would have been sinning by eating blood and encouraging others to do so. They were after all Jews and still under the old laws. Do you serve a Jesus that sinned?

71 posted on 02/20/2015 2:32:49 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
And I can’t even walk forward all that will with this polio!

He also said "Take up your bed and walk!"

(Sorry 'bout that, CB. Going to do my pirates of pennance routine now. Much worse self-flagellation than the Catholic priest in Dan Brown's Angels and Demons.)
72 posted on 02/20/2015 2:36:20 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Ge0ffrey
Every Mass is a miracle. The Eucharist is our daily bread, our manna come down from heaven. Praise Jesus, body, blood, soul and divinity in the Holy Eucharist. Just as Christ, in a moment of time and at a particular place, assumed our humanity, we at a moment in time and at a particularly place partake in Christ’s divinity.

Uhhh....Christians partake in His divinity every moment through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit by Who we've been sealed in Him.

73 posted on 02/20/2015 2:36:31 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz
Well I finally know what I believe in. I’m a catholic and I believe in CONsubstantiation. His SPIRITUAL presence in the eucharist. It doesn’t change the reverence one should have for it nor does it change its impact. m

Nope...doesn't work that way...Transubstantiation is what Christ meant, taught, and instituted. The bread and wine become the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ.....He said "THIS IS MY BODY"....and it is.

74 posted on 02/20/2015 2:37:57 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl
Guess again....O.K., without an inerrant leader, we all get to decide on what the truth is...yeah, that'll work real well....20,000 or so different ideas of what the truth is should lead to no confusion whatsoever.....I guess....PATHETIC

That's still not it. Sorry. That was your last guess for today.
75 posted on 02/20/2015 2:37:59 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

“...It makes no sense to me...”

I also made a similar point as well on another thread. Why go for the throat of your fellow Christians when they are being beheaded?

The Catholic belief in the real presence need not be attacked - let us believe in peace and we have history and scripture to back us up, as well.

Would the virulent condemnation of Jewish belief (attack for not beliving in Jesus) be appropriate? Of course not. Attacking Christian’s core beliefs when people are dying for the faith is not OK.

Why do you care? Let Catholics be Catholic in peace. Trying to undermine someone else’s beliefs with lies is not Christian.

The Church Fathers ALL taught the real presence of Christ in the eucharist. They were not the precursors of the protestants; they had nothing to protest.

According to protestants, doctrine does not develop, so the whole premise is already just an attack, they don’t even really believe it themselves.

St. John Henry Newman ora pro nobis

St. Francis de Sales ora pro nobis


76 posted on 02/20/2015 2:39:23 PM PST by stonehouse01
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To: LurkingSince'98
“(Jesus has risen from the dead!!! It has already happened” >Only for you - not for Christ.<

It has happened for you - NOT for Christ who lives in the eternal present.

For Christ, His sacrifice is happening NOW because to Him ther is no past, no future - only His eternal NOW!

AMDG

You are aware that Jesus has risen? Right?

He is at the right hand of the Father....right now....at this moment. His sacrifice was completed on the cross.

77 posted on 02/20/2015 2:40:16 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: CynicalBear

I thought that pretty much every one of the myriad denominations practiced some fairly standard form of observing the Lord’s Supper. So, they are ALL wrong?

You did not answer the question, so I will restate it. Why are churches telling people to participate in symbolizing a sinful act?


78 posted on 02/20/2015 2:41:50 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: CynicalBear

I understood your question exactly but am sorry your understanding what “God exists outside if space and time” means is lacking.

And since the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are ONE - the Trinity does not exist separately - ever.

For the Greater Glory of God


79 posted on 02/20/2015 2:42:08 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: elhombrelibre

“... Ian Paisley wing...”

Yes - I said that also on another thread and I am surprised it is allowed because they don’t allow Jack Chick.

Would they allow such an attack on Judaism? Maybe this religion forum has seen its better day.

Ian Paisley and these attacks are Al Sharpton personified - hatefulled catholic baiters


80 posted on 02/20/2015 2:43:10 PM PST by stonehouse01
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