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To: fishtank

I have no problem with evolution, we do not know the methodology God used to create the world. We do know He exists out of time, since time and/or entropy is His invention. Science has taught us that time is not quite the constant thing it appears to us to be in fact.

One thing I do know, you get too smarty-pants and try to limit acceptable methodologies by the Almighty and you will be in for a learning experience.

When Abraham and his wife agreed that conception would be impossible for them because Sarah was old, God proved them wrong. Sure, it “broke the rules”, but they were His rules and He knows them better than we do. The healings and miracles in the New Testament, likewise, oh ye of little faith.

This is not a matter of expressing your “faith” by imposing your conception of what is written in the Bible on reality, this is a matter of letting God do the leading and teaching, and trusting Him.


10 posted on 02/17/2015 8:18:33 AM PST by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spots on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: BlackAdderess
I agree. How God designed us and the universe we live in is open for discovery as much as our limited capabilities allow us.

Evolution clearly exists and is a design feature put in place by the designer. Denying that it does exist and that science is some how bad for Christians is idiotic. If anything, the more I learn from science, the more impressed I am with God's work and my faith is confirmed.

If the author's faith is endangered by scientific knowledge, his faith isn't too strong and his intellect even shallower.

13 posted on 02/17/2015 8:24:42 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: BlackAdderess

The evolution you talk about simply is not the evolution that is taught. You suppose God-directed change, but what is defined as evolution by the academics is an undirected change based on naturalistic changes, with no need for God.

Furthermore, they will tell you that abiogenesis (life from non-life) is not part of the theory of evolution, but that it must have happened, because we are here. In fact, they will go to the notion that life was seeded here from another planet, but that is just an infinite regression waiting to happen.


16 posted on 02/17/2015 8:28:23 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: BlackAdderess
I have no problem with evolution, we do not know the methodology God used to create the world.

Holding off on asserting it as true or false, the thing about evolution is that applying it to humans refutes the special creation of humankind.
IOW, even if God did use evolution for plants/animals, once you apply evolution to make the jump from non-human to human you assert that mankind is not made in God's image — and that leads to bad things.

22 posted on 02/17/2015 8:52:45 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: BlackAdderess
I have no problem with evolution, we do not know the methodology God used to create the world.

Yes we do know, if we are willing to accept it. The "methodology" is as simple as it is powerful: God spoke and it was so.

With His own hand he wrote in the 10 commandments that He made the universe and man in six days and rested the seventh. Will you question what God Himself wrote with His own hand -- in His own Law, no less?

If you say you believe that God wrote the 10 commandments with His own hand (Exodus 31:18) you must necessarily have a major problem with the premise of evolution.

The first thing God created was time ("In the beginning...) He defined a time interval for "day" on the 1st day, and created celestial clocks for the creation's benefit to allow us to measure that interval on the 4th day. Get it? The time interval was fixed, and God created the "clock" days later to allow us to measure time, and appreciate it.

So when God created the universe in 6 days that is exactly what He meant as He said it and wrote it. No time for evolutionary speculation. he created no time nor mechanism for that speculation to occur -- that is, if you believe what He wrote with His own hand.

It is up to you to choose to believe what He wrote.

It's no more difficult than that.

If God Himself has limited your freedom to define time and His chosen methodology of Creation as you might otherwise desire to define it - and He did this by virtue of the way He defined that time should be measured, who are you to say otherwise, "Smarty Pants"? :-)

FReegards!

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25 posted on 02/17/2015 8:55:55 AM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: BlackAdderess

“I have no problem with evolution, we do not know the methodology God used to create the world.”

That is true but the scriptural record says that “by man came death” and death passed upon the whole created order because of man’s disobedience. So God did not use an evolutionary death process to create man - unless of course you want to through out those passages.


52 posted on 02/17/2015 12:01:25 PM PST by Lake Living
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