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FAMOUS COMMUNISTS AND ISLAM
First Things ^ | February 11, 2015 | Stephen Schwartz

Posted on 02/11/2015 3:06:34 PM PST by NYer

For some time, an argument has been made that the liberal left, in refusing to examine the problems of Islam, has betrayed its Enlightenment roots. That is, while secular, feminist, and protective of free speech in dealing with its Western peers, the liberal left has been accused of abandoning its heritage in its quest for political correctness regarding Muslims.

In truth, however, the left has a distinguished background of courting Islam as a weapon against Western capitalism. Its most representative figures from the past did so frankly, as the following rehearsal of their statements demonstrates.

Karl Marx supported the Ottoman empire, then accused of atrocities against Christians and non-Turkish Muslims. In 1853, as the Crimean War pitting Russia against Turkey began, Marx wrote, 

It is not to be denied that Turkey, the weak state, has shown more true courage, as well as more wise statesmanship, than either of her powerful allies [Britain and France] . . . we may justly attribute the delays and hesitation shown in the manoeuvres of Omer Pasha [Latas] to the paralyzing and temporizing influence of Lord Redcliffe and M. [Edmond] de la Cour, [British and French ambassadors to Turkey] over the Divan [the Ottoman court]. At the moment when [Omer Pasha Latas] was opening the campaign, they procured orders to be sent to him to delay the beginning of hostilities. . . . If there be a general war, it will not be the fault of Turkey, but next to Russia, of France and England. They might have prevented it infallibly, but they did not.

Omer Pasha Latas was a brutal and corrupt Ottoman functionary hated especially by Balkan Muslims.

Thus was a pattern established: defend Muslim autocrats, blame the West.

Lenin was so excited by the defeat of Russia by Japan in 1904, the failed Russian revolution of 1905, the 1906 constitutional revolution in Persia, and the 1908 Young Turk revolution in the Ottoman empire, that he wrote, 

in Persia Russian counter revolution played and continues to play what amounts to a decisive role, while in Turkey the revolution was at once confronted with a counter-revolutionary coalition of the powers, Russia at their head. True, the general tone of the European press and of the diplomatic statements would appear to contradict this. If we are to believe these statements and the semi-official press, there is universal “sympathy” with regenerated Turkey, a universal desire to see her constitutional regime strengthened and developed, general praise for the “moderation” of the bourgeois Young Turks. All these fine words, however, are typical of the base bourgeois hypocrisy of Europe’s “present-day” reactionary governments and present-day reactionary bourgeoisie.

Once again: Muslims as manipulated victims, the West at fault, and, repudiation of Western sympathy for modernization of Muslim societies.

After the Bolshevik Revolution, Muslims under Russian rule were granted a special status. The Communist International held the 1920 Baku Congress of Peoples of the East in which Muslim delegates called for struggle against the West with Russian support. There, a Bolshevik intellectual, Karl Radek, declared, 

We appeal, comrades, to the warlike feelings which once inspired the peoples of the East when these peoples, led by their great conquerors, advanced upon Europe. We know, comrades, that our enemies will say that we are appealing to the memory of Genghis Khan and to the memory of the great conquering Caliphs of Islam . . . when the capitalists of Europe say that a new wave of barbarism threatens . . . we answer them: Long live the Red East, which together with the workers of Europe will create a new civilization under the banner of Communism!

These declarations shouldn’t surprise us. When anti-imperialism is the concept and purpose that defines a movement, it will naturally find allies in radical Islam, which presents itself precisely as a creation of colonial oppression.


TOPICS: History; Islam; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bho; cip; communism; communists; constantinople; firstthings; islam; marx; ottoman; stephenschwartz
Stephen Schwartz is Executive Director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism (CIP). 
1 posted on 02/11/2015 3:06:34 PM PST by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 02/11/2015 3:07:04 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

There is NO “Radical Islam”. It’s ALL JUST Islam and, if they adhere to the teachings of Mohammed, THEY’RE ALL RADICAL because, ultimately, they ALL want kafirs (that’s us) D.E.A.D.! Get used to it!!

If you genuinely want to understand the TRUE, VIOLENT, DUALISTIC, SCHIZOPHRENIC nature of ISLAM in order to become part of a solution instead of part of the problem that spells doom for Western Civilization (and, NO, that’s not too extreme a statement), you need to spend 40 minutes with Dr. Bill Warner here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk

And this is ESPECIALLY for any antisemites who view the “Jewish Conspiracy” as the primary threat to your existence and are put off because the video was posted by a Jewish group.  Try to think of any nations conquered by violent, bloody Jewish jihad and send me their names.

After watching this presentation, if you STILL believe that Bush was correct when he called islam a “religion of peace” (it’s not a religion and it ain’t peaceful) and Obama was right when he recently declared islam morally equivalent or superior to the Christian Crusades, you are DEFINITELY a BIG part of the problem.

Gang, this is a WAR and it is one we dare not lose!

PLEASE SHARE THIS BEFORE THEY STRIKE OFF YOUR FINGER TIPS!!


3 posted on 02/11/2015 3:13:40 PM PST by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Dick Bachert

I agree whole heartedly. The problem is not radical islam. The problem is islam.


4 posted on 02/11/2015 3:22:22 PM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed)
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To: NYer

Arafat and the PLO were strongly aligned with both the PRC and USSR.


5 posted on 02/11/2015 3:29:50 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: NYer

Looks like the spirit of Antichrist to me.


6 posted on 02/11/2015 3:36:18 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: NYer

And don’t forget the USSR’s support of the Arabs against Israel (ignored by both the American Left and “palaeoconservatives” because this was counter to their dogmas) and the worldwide Leftist support of that great socialist revolutionary, Ayatollah Khomeini.


7 posted on 02/11/2015 4:07:01 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: NYer

Within any religion you have various groups representing the stages of the spiritual development process.

You have the legalists... not fundamentalists as they often lose sight of the fundamental principles such as Love.

You have the self worshipers who have their religion as part of their individual ego identity.

You have those who have transcended self. They have no need to go to worship services but they talk with God daily. They can wear striped pants with plaid shirts and care less what other people think as their identity is in their relationship with God. Often these people would be considered mystics if they cared enough to share their increased spiritual abilities with others.

Every religion has people in all three groups...


8 posted on 02/11/2015 4:10:30 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: Zionist Conspirator
We should not forget the alliance between Hitler and the Muslims, as well.

In 1941, Haj Amin al-Husseini fled to Germany and met with Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and other Nazi leaders. He wanted to persuade them to extend the Nazis’ anti-Jewish program to the Arab world. Read More

9 posted on 02/11/2015 4:14:24 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

“Anti-imperialism... naturally find allies in radical Islam.” Mr. Stephen Schwartz has my respect as a scholar who understands the evil Left just as does David Horowitz. All secret plotters join together to destroy the Church and find allies in Islam.
The problem is that Mr. Schwartz tries to fix and improve Islam.
Ali Sina wishes to throw Islam out the window.
Mr. Schwartz has always been courteous to me and I am thankful that he is finding a home at First Things.
Catholic Knights will always defeat secret plotters and Islamists, because we have the support of three powerful ladies: St. Ubaldesca, St. Mary Magdalene and That One whose foot crushes the snake.


10 posted on 02/11/2015 5:10:50 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: NYer
No kidding. Ask any Armenian what he thinks of Lenin and soon you'll hear "Why did he give away our land? You wanna give, give what you have not what we have".

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Russian Marxist revolutionary, communist politician and leader of 1917 October Revolution in Russia, gave Mountain Ararat to the founder of the Turkish state Mustafa Kemal Ataturk as a gift, writes Financial Times in article about Armenia and its scenic nature.

Referring to Armenia being the first state to officially adopt Christianity and the sufferings St Gregory Illuminator had to endure in Khor Virap, the newspaper writes: "'The seventh-century monastery of Khor Virap now stands above the pit where Gregory languished for 13 years. It is a popular postcard, the church framed against the snowy backdrop of Mount Ararat, where the Ark came to rest, with a foreground of vines purportedly planted by Noah himself. Ararat, the supreme symbol of Armenia, now lies across the border in Turkey, the gift of Lenin to Ataturk in 1921."

Lenin gave Mountain Ararat to Ataturk as gift

11 posted on 02/11/2015 7:25:31 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: NYer

Lenin had extensive writings to the Comintern and within Soviet Russia particularly directed at the Ukraine— directing the support of the muslim clerics as leaders to convert their flocks to Bolshevism/Marxism. He praised the rigid organization of islam as being helpful to the spread of world communism.

In the Ukraine this translated to conversion to communism and then the wiping out of the landed “muslim” communists and their eradication. This didn’t work out quite so well for the communists in Iran who supported Ayatollah Khomeini— they were embraced by the mullahs and the ayatollah and when they took over... the communists were wiped out, literally.

These ideologies are capable of working in tandem. The end result is always worldwide fascism/marxism/totalitarianism, regardless who wins, and so freedom loving people must stop them both. It is obvious that the Comintern is still at work. The Occupy movement continues as a communist front group for “equality of wealth” etc. and they synchronize with the “brotherhood” of the “peace” of islam as an end result. Both seek destruction of Western democratic republics.


12 posted on 02/11/2015 8:42:26 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: annalex
Ask any Armenian what he thinks of Lenin and soon you'll hear "Why did he give away our land? You wanna give, give what you have not what we have".

I know several Armenians. These are people of great faith and fortitude. One shared the story of her father's flight from Armenia at the time of Lenin. We can learn much from our Eastern christian brothers and sisters. It is only a matter of time before we will confront the same problems here.

13 posted on 02/12/2015 5:55:05 AM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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