There Is No Salvation Outside The Catholic Church (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus)

Barnhardt.biz ^ | 2/6/2015 | Ann Barnhardt

[infool7]

Ann has a well thought out explanation about a difficult Catholic doctrine. I haven't seen it posted here yet. Please try to read the entire article before commenting.

[SeaHawkFan]

Which order of Catholic priests is the one true order?

[Mom MD]

the rock the Church is built on is Peters confession of Christ, not Peter himself. I am not and never will be a member of the Roman Catholic church. I am a member of the catholic Church. I will spend eternity with Christ. And Roman Catholics can just get over it and look to reform their own error and seek Christ in Spirit and in Truth instead of telling the rest of His body we are going to hell.

[Mom MD]

And by the way the doctrine of purgatory is one of the most repulsive I have heard. Either Christ’s work on the cross was sufficient or it wasn’t. I am clothed in Christs righteousness, why would I need purgatory. I am already part of the Church Universal and Triumphant, and I can’t wait to see Christs work in me revealed when He comes for me.

[AppyPappy]

And the Seventh Day Adventist Church.

[NonValueAdded]

Perhaps if you are talking small “c” catholic and not capital “C”

[Fzob]

I thought there was no salvation outside of Jesus. Silly me.

[ConservativeMind]

Okay, so I read the whole thing.

When the initial premise is wrong, everything else is, too.

Read THIS whole item:

https://carm.org/is-peter-the-rock

[piusv]

Now, if you don’t like hearing this, you can go listen to Pope Francis spew some irrational, illogical, Modernist, faux-ecumenical garbage, but understand that his priority is very different from mine.

Amen.

[kinsman redeemer]

Place Mark

[cuban leaf]

Someone once asked me,”what is a Christian cult”. I said, it is any “Christian church organization that believes you have to be a member of that organization to receive Christ’s grace.

[ctdonath2]

I envision God saying “you keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.”

[Delta 21]

And the Roman Catholics are at the top of the list.

[cuban leaf]

...we have been taught to deny that there is, in fact, any such thing as “truth”. ONE TRUTH.

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There is one truth, but here is the problem: I was arguing the fate of the lost with a guy in my Baptist church and he finally got mad and held up his big KJV and said, “I believe what the Word of God says about it.” I said, “No, what you believe is your interpretation of it. And I believe mine.”

What he really believed was what he had been told since infancy and never really studied it himself. I agreed with his position myself until I actually studied it.

[Ransomed]

“Is there a heaven where contraception is not a sin – because ALL of the protesting sects today deny the sinfulness of contraception?”

Not all. Amish and old order Mennonite don’t believe in bc within marriage, as well has many independent types to my understanding.

Freegards

[muir_redwoods]

I’m not religious at all. I do appreciate many of the fine qualities many religious people display. Among them, charity and humility which, at one time, were central to Christian social policy, maybe still.

Its difficult to understand a presumably humble Christian espousing limits to the charity of his Deity. Assuming an all powerful and all loving God, who among us feels safe in defining divine limits? Can anyone say what actions the Deity will take? Where in scripture is it written the your God has had to tell you everything and that your understanding of what you’ve been told (or think you heard) is perfect?

Again, I’m not a Christian so, perhaps my understanding of humility is imperfect and that Christian humility empowers one to require the Deity to play by one’s own understanding of the “rules”.

[cuban leaf]

“Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH.”

So we know, just from that, that Our Lord does have, in fact, a Church, and that He has ONE Church, because he used the singular form of the noun.

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Yep, it is made up of the believers. And unlike man-made religions, the Christian church is about a personal relationship between the believer and God Himself.

It is why YOPIOS is a GOOD thing. Others can counsel me, but I am personally responsible for choosing Christ. And that IS, by definition, YOPIOS.

And when a church organization so twists the bible to try to convince me of stuff like Mary being ever-virgin, that organization is seriously misguided.

[cuban leaf]

Has inflation affected the price of indulgences, btw?

[servantboy777]

>>Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH.” <<

You are absolutely right. It is Peter's confession that Jesus is the Christ, son of the living God.

A verse or two after Jesus said the words to Peter, “on this rock I will build my church”, Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

Obviously Jesus didn't believe Peter was satan, he was speaking spiritually...so should it not follow that the preceding verse in which Jesus spoke of building His church be taken as spiritual as well? Not literally PETER, on YOU I will build my church.

Not trying to kick up some dust, just curious.
How does catholic dogma reconcile with these versus? Do we ignore them?

[javie]

I love all the scripture you quote to back up your claim. Oh wait there are none.

“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” Romans 10:9