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To: FourtySeven; defconw; 9thLife; terycarl; Last Dakotan; SumProVita; SpirituTuo
What has been called by many prelates a "disaster" or "unacceptable", the first official document of the Church of Rome ever accepting of very curious notions (including the "positive" aspects of same-sex "relationships"), the relatio post disceptationem had obviously been prepared, by its very timing and the astonishing (for Vatican standards) fact of the simultaneous release of several translations, long before the Synod by Lobbyists, including Cardinal Baldisseri, with the main influence of Archbishop Bruno Forte. Now, Cardinal Baldisseri, master of all Synod-related matters, has nonchalantly revealed when asked (as reported by Aleteia and by the splendid Hilary White for LifeSiteNews) that the Pope had been personally aware of it and had personally approved the content of the report.

I'm anxious to hear from any of the Francis "defenders".

33 posted on 01/30/2015 2:45:54 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Frankly, no pun intended, it doesn’t bother me. In fact, I would rather see what bishops had to say, and who was faithful, and who wasn’t. I don’t like the notion of back room deals, etc. I like free and open proceedings, and transparent communications.

If the Pope said it was OK to publish preliminary, mid-term, etc. findings, fine by me.

What is REALLY important, to me, at least, is what is actually taught, and what is in the final report.

I don’t see a Jesuit conspiracy behind every Dominican, nor do I put much credibility in the Rorate Caeli.

Some people don’t care for Pope Francis, some do. Some prefer Pope Benedict, etc. It is our duty to pray for the Pope, and all clergy, and religious. It is our duty to believe the Ordinary Magisterium. Nothing that Pope Francis has actually said, in context, has gone against Church teaching. Rather, he often cites the CCC, as well as Papal documents such as Humana Vitae.

Regardless, I think there is real style issue, and people are reacting to it. In my opinion, and in some cases, the reactions are over the top.


35 posted on 01/30/2015 6:07:19 PM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: ebb tide

I think you mean “ostriches”.


39 posted on 01/31/2015 5:14:11 AM PST by piusv
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