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To: Elsie; metmom; RnMomof7; CynicalBear; CA Conservative

Proposition:

If Jesus has not given us his true body and his true blood to be received in the sacrament of the Eucharist, then the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah HAVE NOT BEEN FULFILLED.

Discuss.


378 posted on 01/30/2015 9:12:09 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
If Jesus has not given us his true body and his true blood to be received in the sacrament of the Eucharist, then the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah HAVE NOT BEEN FULFILLED.

There!

I've DISCUSSED your chosen religions teaching.


The added words, created by Rome, have infested Catholic brains like a CANCER!

They must be COMPLETELY removed or they'll grow back even WORSE!

382 posted on 01/31/2015 3:56:46 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
... the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah ...


Matthew 26:52-56
 

52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. 53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?”

55 In that hour Jesus said to the crowd, “Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me? Every day I sat in the temple courts teaching, and you did not arrest me. 56 But this has all taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled.” Then all the disciples deserted him and fled.

383 posted on 01/31/2015 4:14:41 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Luke 16:29-31

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”


385 posted on 01/31/2015 4:23:43 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced...


Art; LISTEN to them!

It is all WRITTEN down!!!

386 posted on 01/31/2015 4:25:22 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Show us where the term *eucharist* is found anywhere in Scripture.

And provide us with the references as to properly receive it.

And provide us with the OT prophecies that have not been fulfilled because of your claim.


388 posted on 01/31/2015 5:26:00 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Proposition:

If Jesus has not given us his true body and his true blood to be received in the sacrament of the Eucharist, then the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah HAVE NOT BEEN FULFILLED.

Discuss.


Discuss what Arthur?  I could make a proposition that "the Scriptures predict that scientists will one day discover the Moon's core really is made of green cheese." Would you be interested in discussing that?  Especially if I made no case whatsoever that there were actual prophesies that predicted exactly that?  I didn't think so.

BTW, if you're thinking of Malachi, that's already been discredited repeatedly as prophecy of the Roman version of the Eucharist.  So here's a counter-proposal:

Proposition:

There is no OT prophecy of anything remotely like the Roman version of the Eucharist as a ritual practice for the Ecclesia that Jesus is building.

Discuss.

Peace,

SR
394 posted on 01/31/2015 8:33:23 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Arthur McGowan; Elsie; metmom; CynicalBear; Springfield Reformer
Proposition:
If Jesus has not given us his true body and his true blood to be received in the sacrament of the Eucharist, then the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah HAVE NOT BEEN FULFILLED. Discuss.

Could you provide us with the prophesy that would not be fulfilled ?

395 posted on 01/31/2015 9:25:21 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Proposition:

If Jesus has not given us his true body and his true blood to be received in the sacrament of the Eucharist, then the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah HAVE NOT BEEN FULFILLED.

You first. You make the proposition, but provide no Scriptural basis for it. Please provide a Scriptural foundation, not relying on Catholic tradition, for that idea, and then we can discuss it.

398 posted on 01/31/2015 12:12:01 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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