Posted on 01/25/2015 5:22:50 PM PST by RnMomof7
The Inquisition also kept the Muslims in check.
Gave ‘em a Baptized version of Sharia.
I have to say the comments at the link were worth reading. Especially the first one:)
“Most countries have socialist, regardless of religious identity.”
My point was that free enterprise came from the USA which was formed by a large variety of Protestants who were able to agree together on a form of government, national laws, and protection of property and individual liberties. To the extent the Christian values of this nation have been abandoned, the nation has declined. No other religion, except possibly Judaism, has had the track record of success that sprang from this nation’s Protestant roots.
“It certainly appears that such feelings emanate from your side as well.”
It is interesting how Catholics offer proof that Protestantism is false because we are not in complete agreement on many things. But then you like to lump us all together and blame us all for the works of those Protestants who committed the same crimes as the Catholic church.
You don’t get to have it both ways.
The main argument Catholics make for the authority of Rome is the single doctrinal view and authority of Rome. Can you show me where the Catholic church / Rome has repented of the crimes of burning people at the stake for printing the Bible? Do you think it was wrong to do this? We still have these Bibles in use today. Do you advocate killing and torturing Bible publishers today?
If not, can you admit the church or Rome committed great sin by doing these things?
Unfortunately the Pope and it's membership are "inviting" them in... the pope wants the two religions (Christianity and Islam) to be friends....a 'serious' mistake...as does our government....so their can be no agreement...it IS a battle for the souls of men
**I am not picking on the Roman Church;**
Sure fooled me.
Actually, it went both ways, especially in England and Ireland. Oliver Cromwell’s stated intent in Ireland was to drive all Catholics “To Hell Or Connacht” (the harsh, unfertile western part), and sold over 100,00 Irish Catholics into slavery in the West Indies.
Persecution is one area where neither side should claim clean hands.
“Christ said you can recognize a tree by its fruit.”
You are darn right!
I got sick of the rotten fruit of the protestants!
I got sick of an incomplete bible
I got sick of a church had lacked the full sacraments.
I don’t like a church that does not have a service every day or is even open daily just for prayer.
I wanted a church that was 100% pro life although I must admit I did not know this at the time.
I got sick of a pastor who told me all other “churches” were going to hell that did not believe in our churches doctrine, yet refused to associate with those other churches because they did not have the same doctrine.
I got sick of the rich brats in our church always getting away with murder just cause their parents gave a lot of money to the church.
When I joined the Catholic church I was told:
How to “Get saved” the way the bible says to do it!
I was taught how hard it is to be a saint.
I was given a complete copy of the Bible not the one Martin Luther chopped up.
I was told why Mary is so important in all of this, and wow did that ever blow me away. Actually it turned me 100% prolife, something the protestants could never do, but that is another story.
I learned how to pray.
I have a church that has a service every day and is open for prayer.
What I have learned now as a Catholic is so far beyond what I ever learned in my former church.
The biggest thing I have learned is why you are the way you are. “Unless you drink my blood and eat my flesh you will not have life with in you”. You have no idea what that means but I do. Thank God now I do and it’s because of the Catholic Church, because the protestants sure never taught me that.
Is that that true, Geron, et al? Does editor-surveyor speak for all you Prots?
Do you all have your own individuals paths up the same mountain? Some Prots condone queer marriage, female priests, female bishops, aborton; some don’t. How do y’all square that?
God bless you. Great post.
I do not disagree. Cromwell did many bad things...
“...My point was that free enterprise came from the USA which was formed by a large variety of Protestants who were able to agree together on a form of government,national laws,and protection of property and individual liberties. ....”
National government followed church government.
In the colonies, mostly Protestant, had limited government with few layers. Same with church government.
In the European nations, still with kings who held to ‘divine right’ and not so far removed from Rome theologically and geographically, had many layers of government/nobles, with autocratic monarchs at the top... plus a head of the church who exerted influence.
(Atlantic ocean made for a good buffer)
Whole thread so far, with not much exception, is the same old hooey piled higher and deeper.
Does editor-surveyor speak for all you Prots?
No!
Not all prots condone queers, women preachers & deacons, etc
The Orthodox Presbyterian, Reformed, and Lutheran Missouri synod don’t condone the items you listed one bit.
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