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To: Iscool
1Jn_5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Nope, John is talking about what he himself has written, in that letter, and he doesn't come close to saying that there is nothing else that is true.



1Co_4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

It's a reference to what was written in the letter:

For while one saith, I indeed am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollo; are you not men? What then is Apollo, and what is Paul? [5] The ministers of him whom you have believed; and to every one as the Lord hath given. [6] I have planted, Apollo watered, but God gave the increase. [7] Therefore, neither he that planteth is any thing, nor he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Throughout the letter, Paul was admonishing his followers not to forget that they were all following Jesus, not the Apostles, and not to think higher of men like Paul and Apollo than Paul had just written to explain.

The bible wasn't completed when this letter was written, so Paul couldn't possible have meant to only believe what hadn't been written yet. I doubt he knew that his letters would end up as several books of the bible.


Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Topic of this letter is circumcision. Paul was explaining that those preaching that circumcision was required to become a follower of Christ were wrong. Those preachers were following what was in the bible as regards circumcision, and Paul told them not only did they not have to be circumcised, but that they shouldn't be.

It is doubtful that Paul would be saying that only what is in the bible was true, because he just contradicted it. He said, what I preach to you is more true than what is in the bible. Since the New Testament wasn't written yet, he was saying what is NOT written in the bible is the truth.

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1,259 posted on 01/28/2015 12:45:29 AM PST by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: omegatoo
Nope, John is talking about what he himself has written, in that letter, and he doesn't come close to saying that there is nothing else that is true.

That wasn't even the topic...The topic was Catholic doctrine outside of what is written in the scriptures...And John answers it nicely...

1Jn_5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Joh 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

You can't get any more clear than that...John gave us everything there is to know about achieving eternal life...So if everything is there, there's nothing that can be added by your religion as a requirement for salvation...

1Co_4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

It's a reference to what was written in the letter:

For while one saith, I indeed am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollo; are you not men? What then is Apollo, and what is Paul? [5] The ministers of him whom you have believed; and to every one as the Lord hath given. [6] I have planted, Apollo watered, but God gave the increase. [7] Therefore, neither he that planteth is any thing, nor he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Throughout the letter, Paul was admonishing his followers not to forget that they were all following Jesus, not the Apostles, and not to think higher of men like Paul and Apollo than Paul had just written to explain.

Paul was using them as an example...In another verse he spoke the same of Peter (that ought to be a warning to Catholics)...The context is for anyone that the followers of Jesus single out to place on a pedestal...Such as Mary, or popes...It is NOT just a reference to the two apostles named...

The bible wasn't completed when this letter was written, so Paul couldn't possible have meant to only believe what hadn't been written yet. I doubt he knew that his letters would end up as several books of the bible.

Paul wasn't just some hack taking notes...Paul was chosen by God to be the apostle to the Gentiles...I'm sure Paul knew the gravity of his letters...The ones he wrote and those not yet written...

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Topic of this letter is circumcision.

No it isn't...The topic is preaching any other gospel than the gospel of the grace of God...

It is doubtful that Paul would be saying that only what is in the bible was true, because he just contradicted it. He said, what I preach to you is more true than what is in the bible. Since the New Testament wasn't written yet, he was saying what is NOT written in the bible is the truth.

But what he preached made it to the bible...Paul knew what he was talking about...

1,266 posted on 01/28/2015 2:53:39 AM PST by Iscool
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To: omegatoo

He said, what I preach to you is more true than what is in the bible.

Ain't it amazing what Catholics can come up with!

1,294 posted on 01/28/2015 4:54:57 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: omegatoo; Iscool
>>Topic of this letter is circumcision.<<

So the only gospel they preached was "no more circumcision"?

1,310 posted on 01/28/2015 5:55:16 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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