[Arthur McGowan]

Question-begging.

YOU say it's pagan.

The apostles opposed anything pagan.

Therefore, the apostles opposed what YOU say is pagan.

The question-begging consists in your not noticing that it's YOU who say it's pagan. You have not established that it's pagan, or that the apostles opposed it.

And you provide no evidence that ANYBODY in Christianity condemned it AT THE TIME IT SUPPOSEDLY STARTED.

I call your attention again to the 1500-year SILENCE on the matter in all of Christendom. You refuse to acknowledge this 1500 years of total silence. Since when do heresies spring up in Christendom--and nobody notices?

[CynicalBear]

God said in Deut. that we are not to worship Him in any way that the pagans worship their gods. Now, that demands that we know how the pagans worship their gods to know what not to do in our worship if Him. If you don’t care I don’t suppose it matters to you. Nuff said.

[RnMomof7]

The apostles opposed anything pagan.
Therefore, the apostles opposed what YOU say is pagan.
The question-begging consists in your not noticing that it's YOU who say it's pagan. You have not established that it's pagan, or that the apostles opposed it.
And you provide no evidence that ANYBODY in Christianity condemned it AT THE TIME IT SUPPOSEDLY STARTED.

Yes the apostles and disciples opposed pagan teachings.. that is why you do not see them practicing anything near what Rome does on any given Sunday.. there was no priesthood, no 7 sacraments, no statures, no prayer to saints, no "vestments, no "holy water", no re-sacrifice of Christ, etc.. all of thsoe things came out of Rome..not the NT church