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To: Iscool
That doesn't say the apostles are the foundation of the church...It says the foundation of the apostles and prophets...You know what the foundation of the apostles is??? Peter??? of course not...The foundation of the apostles is Jesus Christ...

As I wrote, in Messiah's prayer in John, the catholic chapter seventeen, He prayed for apostolic unity. I wrote "One cannot separate the Apostle Peter from Messiah's church. He said He would build His church on Peter, and Ephesians proves He did. What many have missed is the unity in which He did it."

Messiah is the chief cornerstone, which is certainly the foundation, and the apostles and prophets are the foundation with Him. He is the builder, so He did build his church on Peter, as He said. There are twenty four thrones mentioned in Revelation.

209 posted on 01/21/2015 7:58:25 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
He is the builder, so He did build his church on Peter, as He said.

No, Jesus did not say that and only via a twisting of the context of what He DID say makes the RCC even remotely possible.

Here's a passage from Philippeans Chapter 2 (ESV) that shows God's intent through Jesus and His Church that He founded and also points to the keys to the Kingdom that were given to the Church of Jesus Christ.

"So if there is any encouragement in Christ, any comfort from love, any participation in the Spirit, any affection and sympathy,
2 complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind.
3 Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.
4 Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.
5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,
6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,
10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Now, THAT'S Scripture worth memorizing!

R2z
213 posted on 01/21/2015 9:39:24 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: af_vet_1981
He said He would build His church on Peter, and Ephesians proves He did. What many have missed is the unity in which He did it."

No he didn't...Jesus said he would build his church on a massive rock...

Peter solidly (like a rock) proclaimed their faith that Jesus was the Son of God...Jesus acknowledged that by saying to Peter, you are a rock (petros/stone)...And Jesus further acknowledged that truth by claiming that because Peter believed with his whole heart and soul that the Father 'spiritually' revealed that to Peter (and the others)...

Jesus then, looking at Peter says, however Peter, even tho you are a rock, it is upon THIS rock (petra/huge rock) that I will build my church...

Whether that rock was Jesus himself or the spiritual confirmation to Peter from God that Jesus IS the Son makes little difference...

Messiah is the chief cornerstone, which is certainly the foundation, and the apostles and prophets are the foundation with Him. He is the builder, so He did build his church on Peter, as He said. There are twenty four thrones mentioned in Revelation.

We can believe you or we can believe God...

1Co_3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

1Co_3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

Here it says Paul laid the foundation, NOT Peter...

You guys just don't seem to understand the foundation principal or any bible principal for that matter...

Jesus IS the foundation...The only foundation...It is the apostles who have layed down that foundation...And build upon it...

The foundation is scripture, our knowledge of God...

Psa_8:1 To the chief Musician upon Gittith, A Psalm of David. O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens.

Psa_138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

Paul warns us about building upon that foundation deceitfully...Hence, the Catholic religion...

214 posted on 01/21/2015 10:30:12 AM PST by Iscool
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To: af_vet_1981
He is the builder, so He did build his church on Peter, as He said. There are twenty four thrones mentioned in Revelation.

You guys like Pete so much you've IGNORED the OTHER 23 thrones.

215 posted on 01/21/2015 10:44:27 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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