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To: Springfield Reformer
In any event, I will follow Peter on this, and agree with him to honor Jesus as the "chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded."

To do that one must follow all the scripture, including Ephesians where we find:

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
-- Ephesians, Catholic chapter 2, Protestant verses nineteen through twenty two

One cannot separate the Apostle Peter from Messiah's church. He said He would build His church on Peter, and Ephesians proves He did. What many have missed is the unity in which He did it.

And as an aside, what's up with other than what the Holy Spirit chose to reveal to us through the Greek manuscripts we do have ? Would it not be more appropriate to say God in that phrase ?

159 posted on 01/20/2015 2:40:55 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

God bless you, FRiend. I don’t do Red Herrings. Now Halibut is a different matter. :)

Peace,

SR


162 posted on 01/20/2015 2:51:25 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: af_vet_1981
One cannot separate the Apostle Peter from Messiah's church. He said He would build His church on Peter, and Ephesians proves He did. What many have missed is the unity in which He did it.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

That doesn't say the apostles are the foundation of the church...It says the foundation of the apostles and prophets...You know what the foundation of the apostles is??? Peter??? of course not...The foundation of the apostles is Jesus Christ...

And how do we know that??? Because the bible tells us so...

1Co_3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Jesus is the apostles' foundation...That's the bible interpreting itself...Comparing scripture with scripture...

Isa 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

But what of the apostles??? They are pillars on top of the foundation...

Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

183 posted on 01/21/2015 1:00:05 AM PST by Iscool
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To: af_vet_1981
He said He would build His church on Peter, and Ephesians proves He did.

Too bad that SMARTER folks than you (#47) said otherwise.

194 posted on 01/21/2015 3:35:27 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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