[metmom]

The first eight Popes were murdered, i.e., martyred. Yeah. The Papacy was created by those seeking “worldly power.”

Lots of people seeking world power are murdered by rivals because they are competition.

Their being murdered proves nothing.

[Arthur McGowan]

They were not killed by “rivals.” They were martyred, by the State.

Or are you too blinded by seething hate to admit universally-acknowledge historical facts?