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Pope warns against sterile egoism rooted in a desire for power
Religion News Service ^ | Josephine McKenna

Posted on 12/19/2014 9:40:24 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: 21twelve

He is talking to the universal/small ‘c’ catholic church of which we are all members?

He’s definitely an evangelizer in the way he continually reaches out to many groups and their leaders.


21 posted on 12/20/2014 7:45:45 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide
Did someone mention sterile egoism?

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22 posted on 12/20/2014 8:45:02 AM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: ebb tide

sounds like a one lung Pope may have gotten short of oxygen on the operating table .. He certainly won’t be the first Pope with ‘issues’.. but he could well be the last.. 8-o


23 posted on 12/20/2014 10:25:14 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Salvation
He is talking to the universal/small ‘c’ catholic church of which we are all members?

No, I don't think he is:

“This too makes me think of our mother Church and of so much sterility within our Mother Church,” the Pope told those present in the Vatican’s Saint Martha guesthouse chapel Dec. 19.

24 posted on 12/20/2014 12:13:18 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Isn’t he speaking of “whitewashed tombs” and those who are pretenders or who don’t have a living faith? There are wolves everywhere, those who lurk and seek to destroy from within.


25 posted on 12/20/2014 12:24:49 PM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: ebb tide
"When the Church believes she can do everything, that she can take charge of the consciences of the people, walk along the road of the Pharisees, of the Sadducees, along the road of hypocrisy, the Church is sterile,” he said

So much of what he says sounds like nonsensical blather, and the statements one CAN decipher frequently tend to conform to a syncretic pentecostal/Catholic world view seemingly of his own particular design.

Is he saying here that the Church's role in the formation of Catholic consciences leads to hypocrisy and sterility? What could be more spiritually sterile than rejecting the teachings of Christ and of His Church regarding the necessity for repentence ("Do penance, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand") and encouraging those living in an objective state of mortal sin to receive Holy Communion?

Cardinal Muller: "Doctrine and pastoral care are the same thing. Jesus Christ as pastor and Jesus Christ as teacher with his word are not two different people…There is no solution, since church dogma isn’t just some theory created by some theologians;” but instead it is “the word of Jesus Christ, which is very clear. I cannot change church doctrine.”"

Neither can the Pope nor his fellow "serene" theologians, although their words and actions indicate that they apparently believe otherwise.

He appears to hold himself up even above the Holy Catholic Church.

Begs the question as to whether he is, in fact, a believing Catholic.

26 posted on 12/20/2014 12:27:39 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Campion

Here is a more accurate picture of the typical Catholic parish:

http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2014/12/who-am-i-to-judge


27 posted on 12/20/2014 12:30:30 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Biggirl

That doesn’t explain the Pope’s “newness of God” comment.

Does this “newness” include Holy Communion for adulterers?


28 posted on 12/20/2014 1:43:41 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Arthur McGowan

Sad story.

Our priest is not afraid to mention Confession and the need to avail one of the sacrament.

We also have an ongoing Faith Formation 101 for adults.

Along with 125+ other ministries — a lot of outreach to the world.


29 posted on 12/20/2014 1:52:20 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Along with 125+ other ministries — a lot of outreach to the world.

Your church bulletins must be small paperbacks.

How many Eucharistic Monsters do y'all have?

30 posted on 12/20/2014 2:58:04 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Salvation

I was briefly administrator of a parish that had had two extremely liberal priests for a total of 20 years, or more. At the beginning of Lent, I preached on the Ten Commandments. I covered all ten. I mentioned contraception, of course. I was thanked for the homily about about six people. Over the six weeks of Lent, I had a total of 2 (two) confessions, both on Good Friday.

My experience is that hardly anyone who is of an age to be using The Pill goes to Confession, and only those who aren’t using contraception do go.

The Pill is Satan’s primary sacrament in modern times. It is no accident that it is a parody of the Eucharist, and was created and promoted by lapsed Catholics: Margaret Sanger and Dr. John Rock (who was a darling of Cardinal Cushing, tame house chaplain of the Kennedys).


31 posted on 12/20/2014 3:28:58 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
Sounds very similar to almost all the novus ordo parishes I've ever attended. What particularly strikes a chord is the kids not genuflecting or showing reverence -- they'd always slump in looking sullen, unaware that they're even SUPPOSED to geneflect.

Thank God I found an orthodox, traditional alternative to the novus ordo clown show. I shudder to think how blaise I was myself, and I shudder to think how many people are in a similar state now. Yet it's the attitude the hierarchy seemingly wants to cultivate.

32 posted on 12/20/2014 4:14:55 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: CynicalBear

Yes....many concerns also for Protestant Churches who are also on board...and some Evangelical Movements are circling as well...

Often wonder if the true church will indeed go underground before He comes....it’s not looking good for believers.


33 posted on 12/20/2014 7:06:01 PM PST by caww
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