Posted on 12/19/2014 1:30:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
I don’t accept divorce and remarriage for any reason outside of adultery or murder or something. Lots of “protestants” do not accept it.
I don’t disagree with you in the least. I’m just saying that in sacrificing to those who hate us, we don’t give up the Gospel, which has two parts: We are sinners, and there is a God who saves sinners.
Uhhhh ... what church DOES he go to ?"
did he teach those practices to his followers though
I tend to fall into the Sin of Despair because I know I’m lousy at most all of that.
Although the bit about Jesus not condemning — he did condemn, but not much in the eternal sense. There is always hope a soul can repent and convert.
“We need to be willing to set aside out theological debates and meanderings for a season and focus on simply reading, conforming, and obeying the will of Christ, both as revealed in Scripture and as we are led by his Spirit.”
Well, that makes things perfectly clear, set aside our debates but be led by His Spirit. Looking around today I see that some say the Spirit says that sodomite marriage is dandy. Others today say that abortion is a God-given right and perfectly acceptable.
So who is to say what the Spirit wants or what Jesus’s “dream” was?
Jesus is much more than our Rabbi.
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: 14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: 15 Their feet are swift to shed blood: 16 Destruction and misery are in their ways: 17 And the way of peace have they not known: 18 There is no fear of God before their eyes. 19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Romans 3:10-28
But I guess we are not supposed to read the Bible, but listen to this guy.
I’m just saying that in sacrificing to those who hate us, we don’t give up the Gospel, which has two parts: We are sinners, and there is a God who saves sinners.
The “cleansing of the temple” was a protest against certain abuses, not against the temple cult itself.)
Disagreements are not wars. They exist to help us think clearly.
The witness of those who know Him, the witness of the Holy Spirit.
The lesson there is that the scriptures testify to Jesus, and the context was that the Jew were relying on the Law to save them, but the Law points to Jesus. Yes, there is no salvation in the Bible, but the Bible is the only place where salvation is clearly taught. This is a false dichotomy, at best.
Given that the testimony of the Law and Prophets that points to Jesus is the same testimony as the Christian, it certainly is a false dichotomy.
2. As pointed out before, John 6:29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
3. Jesus condemned the Pharisees on several occasions, calling the sons of satan, a brood of vipers, etc.
One of the reasons they were condemned was because they were preventing people from drawing near to God:
Matthew 23:13 — Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to
Luke 11:46 — Jesus replied, "And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them.
4. The ultimate love for our neighbors is not to let them live in their sin, but to point them to Jesus. We have to confront sin.
Confronting sin is not necessarily condemning the sinner; in fact, there's little better way to raise a sinner's defensiveness than "dropping the hammer on them", how much more open to you would they be if, instead, you went two miles
for them? — if the goal of being a Christian is to be Christ-like then perhaps we should adopt his tactics. Often he didn't have to condemn the sinner because the sinner was well aware of their state and/or their accusers already had — Jesus was willing to address their deeper needs, to meet them where they were
, and he was not hard-hearted towards those suffering. (Link 1, Link 2, Link 3[w/ Explanation].)
Speak for yourself, mister.
And he knows that how?
Has he interviewed Evangelical Christians or is he just presuming?
Yes. The whole essay is a suspect.
It’s like a house that seems nice and solid, but is actually off center and slanted and the corners don’t quite meet.
“Has he interviewed Evangelical Christians or is he just presuming? “
Presuming I would presume
There’s that whole casting pearls before swine thing as well.
Romans 4:5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
By the works of the Law is no flesh justified.
Seems this guy wants to put us back under the bondage of works.
What's the matter, you can't bring yourself to quote the verse??? It's except for fornication, not 'very narrow circumstances'...
Looking at 21 translations that ALL have some form of fornication in the verse, including your own Catholic Douay bible, I see that the only one missing the word or phrase is your perverted NAB...
So you are wrong, divorce and remarriage is allowed by Jesus due to an unfaithful spouse...
Admonitions such as those in John 5 to Jesus' disciples should not confuse us as if to imagine Jesus is--contemporaneously with us--pointing out our lack of faith. While that would apply to many, it doesn't apply to faithful Christians. For those, we that believe trust and believe the One He sent, and do have His words living in us. The Holy Spirit does help us call them to mind.
Deity is in the Word and the Word is God. Whatever is in complete accord with the Word is reliable, where things contrary to His Word or that fall outside thereof, as in another revelation, are either unnecessary to being Christian, or possibly something that might appear as an angel of light, but might not be. That is, these bodies we inhabit can be deceived.
Faith rooted in scripture is sustainable! Many have died in the faith, enjoying their assurance entirely on the Bible's Words as they heard the Holy Spirit speaking to them therein when read or brought to mind in remembrance.
We don't have the incarnate Jesus with us. Don't be deceived. Our communing with Deity is through the Holy Spirit and in the Name of Jesus, not in pretending we have the incarnate Jesus with us. He lives, certainly, but at God's right hand, not here with us.
The Bible is not a substitute for the living Word of God, but the Holy Spirit works with our souls in His Word, communing with us. In that, we are allowed to walk in the Light. There, we as priests are allowed to be present in the Holy of Holies, spiritually analogous to the earthly temples in this physical realm. There we render our spiritual service.
Accurate 'relationship' with God is to be a child of God, at best to be called 'friends', but please try not to imagine that we are on a par with God as some might try to "cultivate" it, and certainly not as Mormons imagine, that we become gods ourselves. N.B. The word 'relationship' is not a word found in the Bible, so why the chic harkening to "go there" anyway?
We are not assured that God might speak through our friends and family. Many have friends and family that are very far from God's Word. That's would only be as reliable as the Holy Spirit would call the biblical Word to one's mind, so why not leave it at the latter?
HF
The word is to abide in us and we in the word.
We NEED to be in Scripture and since the word of God is living and active and sharper than any double edged sword, I don’t think it’s even possible to be in the word any significant amount and NOT have a active life with Christ.
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