Posted on 12/17/2014 4:32:23 PM PST by Gamecock
Not a shock: megachurch celebrity tv star preacher Joel Osteen doesn’t know the Bible, reports the clever and energetic Tristyn Bloom of The Daily Caller. (The story’s several weeks old but I just saw it so pass it on for those of you who hadn’t.)
In a Monday post to his verified Facebook page, Joel Osteen ministries, read: “God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.”
As of Friday afternoon, the post had over 317,000 likes and 52,000 shares.
One normally hesitates to criticize ministers from another tradition, but Joel Osteen perverts Christianity in a way that will keep people from Christ. He preaches a Christianity without a cross. As one commenter put it:
Joel Osteen is a motivational speaker who pretends to be Christian in order to make money. He and his wife live in a multimillion dollar mansion, and in return sell a gospel of false promises, bad theology, and gross consumerism. It is unsurprising that he fails to quote Scripture accurately, because adherence to Scripture has never been a priority of his.
What is truly unfortunate about him and his operation is that through their false teaching they mislead millions. I hope and pray for his repentance, before his final judgment and damnation.
I don’t know about “pretends.” I have no idea what Osteen thinks he’s doing. He does not speak as a Christian preacher but as a motivational speaker who exploits Christian language and Christianity’s continuing cultural authority to bring people (and their donations) in. There’s nothing like the message to the rich young ruler in his preaching, no take up your cross, not even a watch with me.
The Christian life is a constant struggle to move closer to Christ, against the flow of our natures. We’re swimming upstream. With God’s help, making progress, but only because He helps us keep pushing against the current. Osteen offers a pleasant ride on a warm spring day down a wide slow-moving river lying on a well-stocked raft. He presents this as if it were grace and not the easy choice of our fallen natures. “God wants you to do what you want to do” is not the Gospel.
Do you remember reading where Satan tempted Christ and quoted scripture to him?
Christ corrected him and quoted scripture correctly. People misuse scripture all the time but it is not the Bible which is wrong, it is the way people are misusing it by twisting it’s meaning.
I am not an Olsten fan but I have CHRISTIAN friends who enjoy listening to him.
People make mistakes, and some say something using the wrong word, that does not make them unchristian...it just means they misspoke. This judging people based on stupid stuff is ungodly.
James 5:8
http://www.eliyah.com/talmidim/murmur.html
Well, Moses was dead before Joshua asked God to stop the setting of the sun and long dead before Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego came through the fiery furnace. In other words, Joel Osteen doesn't know his Bible.
“When you give and test God, as God requires, then he will throw open the floodgates and there will be a blessing, in which you will not have room to receive it..(paraphrased)”
The way Osteen delivers this message, it’s no better than a pyramid scheme. Actually, it is worse. At least in a pyramid scheme, the first few tiers will see some return. In Osteen’s scheme, he gets the money, and rest of the people have to hope that God decides to make good on Osteen’s promises.
Whose truth, yours. They are closed to keep out the heretics, who can’t recognize truth because they have no relationship with Christ.
And you choose Osteen as the sword you are going to fall on? LOL!
“I think you are a false teacher...”
Wait a second, aren’t you now “crucifying” Gamecock, and in doing so, hypocritically condemning yourself by your own comments on this thread?
The only thing I know about Osteen is where it said he lives in a multimillion dollar home.
If you don’t know that is wrong there is nothing I can say which will change your mind and there is no point in my trying to convince you or anyone else so I am not going to try anymore.
So you are jealous of his success? Seriously....unbelievable.
I pity you
Joel Osteen writes books and has a multimillion dollar income from his own source, that has nothing to do with being a Pastor. How he spends that money on his wife and children is no one’s business, because it does not come from the church.
Someone who denies the Gospel is not my brethren, so those verses don’t worry me.
You might want to go back and start reading from the beginning of the chapter though, if you want to see what God thinks about this worldly prosperity you seem so fond of.
Anyone who criticizes God’s chosen men is an imposter...
I read the Bible regularly, and have read it through many times...do you think I don’t know what it says, maybe you should read it again.
That statement is so wrong on so many levels.
“do you think I don’t know what it says”
Well, I think you might need to refresh your memory. God says some strong words about those who “heap up treasures on the Earth”, but you seem to have forgotten all about those parts of the Bible.
When God tells me Osteen is his anointed, then I’ll worry about that.
That’s your problem.
I am a daughter of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. I will spend eternity in heaven and I know that I know that I know....and I refuse to criticize the men or women who glorify God and spread the gospel.
James 5:8
Those who murmur and complain are like the Israelites that God prevented from entering the promise land.
http://www.eliyah.com/talmidim/murmur.html
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