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To: Petrosius; WVKayaker; metmom
Pet, if you don't trust yourself to properly interpret the Bible, who DO you trust for that?

The church established by Jesus Christ.

OK, if you say so. You have a whole lot more faith in your fellow man than I do. I would be worried that they might make a mistake, and if they did, then I would get shafted.

133 posted on 12/20/2014 5:14:55 AM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my savior, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: Petrosius; Mark17
The church established by Jesus Christ.

The churches founded by Jesus Christ are never based in Rome... and trust should be in God, through the inspiration of His Holy Spirit. All the smells and bells of the Roman cult can do is try to make people feel good and keep sinners closed to His leading.

The church is the body of believers, not some large cult self-proclaimed to be the sole source of contact with Him, by calling on His mother. She's dead, Pete!

The Holy Spirit joins us into the family, and seals us into life everlasting. We become joint heirs with Christ, and are given all the power necessary to grow and prosper. He is our High Priest, and the only intercessor needed. Jesus is the rock on which His churches founded, and Peter is only one of the first to follow Him.

David called on the Rock, long before Jesus came into Peters life...

Psalm 28: To you, Lord, I call;
you are my Rock,
do not turn a deaf ear to me.
For if you remain silent,
I will be like those who go down to the pit.
2 Hear my cry for mercy
as I call to you for help,
as I lift up my hands
toward your Most Holy Place. ...

The word "church" as rendered in the New Testament comes from the Greek term ekklesia which is formed from two Greek words meaning "an assembly" and "to call out" or "called out ones." In summary, the New Testament church is a body of believers who have been called out from the world by God to live as his people under the authority of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 1:22-23). This group of believers or "the body of Christ" began in Acts 2 on the Day of Pentecost through the work of the Holy Spirit and will continue to be formed until the day of the rapture of the church.

134 posted on 12/20/2014 5:42:54 AM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: Mark17
You have a whole lot more faith in your fellow man than I do.

My faith is in Jesus Christ, that he will guide his church as he promised. I prefer this rather than trusting in a presumed infallibility of one's own interpretation. The divisions among Protestants shows that this is a failed model.

135 posted on 12/20/2014 7:52:30 AM PST by Petrosius
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