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To: millegan

When I was in Catholic school in the early 60’s we were told that there was a reflection in Mary’s eyes of Juan Diego and it was upside down, just as it would be in human eyes.

Interesting. I wonder how the earlier investigators missed 12 other people.

This isn’t a criticism, I have always loved her and the image is a great mystery.

I have also stood before a full-size computer recreation of the Shroud in Rome. It is in a church that also contains, a nail from the True Cross, thorns from the Crown, a piece of the True Cross and a piece from the cross of the Good Thief. In this church is also are finger bones said to be from the finger that St. Thomas put into Jesus’ wounds.

The Shroud is staggering to behold up close and in person, even as a reproduction.

I have also seen Our Lady of Guadalupe in person, in the late 60’s. Very impressive. I hope to visit her again.


17 posted on 12/17/2014 12:53:57 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

**When I was in Catholic school in the early 60’s we were told that there was a reflection in Mary’s eyes of Juan Diego and it was upside down, just as it would be in human eyes.**

Your instructors were mistaken. The upside down reflection in the eyes of the Blessed Virgin Mary of Guadalupe are the Bishop and his entourage as they watched the roses fall out her Juan Diego’s tilma and saw the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe appear on it.

How could the eyes be a reflection of Juan Diego when he was presenting the roses and the miracle to the Bishop?


20 posted on 12/17/2014 1:35:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SaxxonWoods

The miracles linked to Our Lady of Guadalupe are many. Very few for the Shroud of Turin. She is the Patron saint for the Americas—Not just Mexico. the image was used as a battleflag and was never hit.


21 posted on 12/17/2014 1:35:55 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Science Stunned by Virgin of Guadalupe´s Eyes
22 posted on 12/17/2014 1:38:20 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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