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To: Salvation

It’s a shame you folks so messed up what was a beautiful liturgy. You might want to take a look at our Divine Liturgy, which very early on the Latin Church used. In the 980s, Prince Vladimir of Kiev’s envoys went to the Liturgy in Constantinople and reported back:

“Then we went on to Greece, and the Greeks led us to the edifices where they worship their God, and we knew not whether we were in heaven or on earth. For on earth there is no such splendor or such beauty, and we are at a loss how to describe it. We know only that God dwells there among men, and their service is fairer than the ceremonies of other nations. For we cannot forget that beauty. Every man, after tasting something sweet, is afterward unwilling to accept that which is bitter, and therefore we cannot dwell longer here.”

Every Sunday in every Orthodox parish on earth, from the Cathedrals of Russia to the village churches here in America, we have the exact same liturgy.


7 posted on 12/16/2014 7:43:59 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

I realize that the Orthodox and old order Latin pushers feel the need to express their superiority over us lowly Roman Rite Catholics, but I have never had the experience of having big screens, costums or anything other than the Novus Ordo at Masses that I attend. So perhaps this is something that is only present on the east coast. I have only gone to one parish where the singing was inconsistent, but it was not horrible.


10 posted on 12/16/2014 7:50:22 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Kolokotronis
Perhaps "messed up" isn't quite the term. It is still our Service where bread and wine become Jesus: Body; Blood; Soul, and Divinity.

One language is a good thing: my Dad used to speak with tears in his eyes, how he heard Mass in the middle of nowhere near the battlefront. Neither he nor the priest spoke the same language, but the Mass was in Latin, and all understood. It was one of his most cherished memories!

God bless you!

34 posted on 12/16/2014 1:12:16 PM PST by Grateful2God (preastat fides supplementum sensuum defectui)
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