Posted on 12/16/2014 6:54:56 AM PST by Salvation
Monsignor Pope Ping!
Catholics never thinking about Protestants PING
Monsignor Pope Ping!
STEP AWAY FROM THE RED FONT!
It is the author of this article, Monsignor Pope, who used the red text to separate his own remarks from that of the person, Dr. Day, whom he was quoting. If your issue is one of color blindness, I’m sorry.
It’s a shame you folks so messed up what was a beautiful liturgy. You might want to take a look at our Divine Liturgy, which very early on the Latin Church used. In the 980s, Prince Vladimir of Kiev’s envoys went to the Liturgy in Constantinople and reported back:
“Then we went on to Greece, and the Greeks led us to the edifices where they worship their God, and we knew not whether we were in heaven or on earth. For on earth there is no such splendor or such beauty, and we are at a loss how to describe it. We know only that God dwells there among men, and their service is fairer than the ceremonies of other nations. For we cannot forget that beauty. Every man, after tasting something sweet, is afterward unwilling to accept that which is bitter, and therefore we cannot dwell longer here.”
Every Sunday in every Orthodox parish on earth, from the Cathedrals of Russia to the village churches here in America, we have the exact same liturgy.
I’m with him on the architecture. These Churches in the Round are an absolute train wreck at Communion time. Not to mention it’s not fun trying to wheel a casket through them to the altar.
Let's tale a look at the liturgy in my church:
-A passage of Scripture to meditate on before the service starts.All very Christocentric.
-Lighting of the Advent Wreat with a passage of Scritoure read aloud.
- A prayer for God's presence (some would call it a prayer of invocvation)
-A hymn
-Confession of sin.
-Assurance of pardon
-Childrens sermon (note the word, sermon. It is a synopsis of the adult sermon for little ears)
-Songs of Praise. This week it will be Come Thou Long Expected Jesus and God Made Low
-Prayer of Intercession
-Tithes with the singing of the Doxology
-Sermon, which lasts about 30 minutes. This week on Luke 1:57-80
-Communion (weekly)
-Another Hymn
-The Benediction
BTW, The Roman Catholic who wrote this article isn't saying anything many of us have been saying for over a decade here on the virtual pages of FR. Many evangelical services are too fluffy. Too evangelistic. Church is the goal of evangelism, not the place for it.
I realize that the Orthodox and old order Latin pushers feel the need to express their superiority over us lowly Roman Rite Catholics, but I have never had the experience of having big screens, costums or anything other than the Novus Ordo at Masses that I attend. So perhaps this is something that is only present on the east coast. I have only gone to one parish where the singing was inconsistent, but it was not horrible.
It is all about readability. As a former webmaster for a large organization I know that just because you know HTML doesn’t mean you should use all of the commands at your disposal.
“I realize that the Orthodox and old order Latin pushers feel the need to express their superiority over us lowly Roman Rite Catholics,...”
Usually I catch myself before playing the pharisee, but alas not this morning! If I were Russian I’d go kneel on beans for a couple of hours, but I’m Greek so I’ll just do a few metanoias and call it good! :)
BTW, in our parish, until a few years ago, we called the sounds emanating from the choir loft “killing cats”. God however is merciful and my mother’s generation in the choir has gone on to the bosom of Abraham and has been replaced by a group of young folks (early 60s) whose voices are actually quite good!
I can agree with you to an extent. My comment to you was prompted because I thought (perhaps wrongly, but perhaps not)you were taking Salvation to task for using red letters in posting Msgr. Pope’s message.
It occurs to me though to ask what you would do with Jesus’ own words in the Bible, which in most are printed in red? (:^)
LOL! All Good!
In this case the Monsignor is totally thinking about the Baptist;s point of view.
Bravo for him and Bravo for Rev. Daniel Day.
First step for catholicism....ditch the Mary worship/prayers/veneration/writings/songs/ etc.
Check out the original. The red font is explained in the article.
I don’t like the round architecture either. I finally did locate the tabernacle, though. Still didn’t find the sanctuary lamp (red light).
Unless the circle to far right contains the sanctuary light.
bttt
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