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To: defconw; metmom; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Elsie
Revelation 5:8, where John depicts the saints in heaven offering our prayers to God under the form of "golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints."

The same Book of Revelation in which Roman Catholics tell us is full of symbols/allegory and should not be taken literally?

Revelation 5:

8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

The four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, each having...and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. So the prayers are of the saints. Saints would be those who are in Christ Jesus, not the later understanding of Roman Catholics. So the passage is not saying people offer the prayers to saints or through saints but of saints. There is a significant difference.

And if we are to take this eisegesis of the passage as presented, then there are only 24 'saints' before the throne of God in Heaven, and four living creatures. So which ordained Roman Catholic saints would that be so Catholics can focus on the ones which can only hear or present prayers?

1,852 posted on 12/18/2014 10:52:04 AM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: redleghunter
so Catholics can focus on the ones which can only hear or present prayers?

Maybe that's why they go to Mary, though not mentioned at all, she MUST be passing along bowls of prayers. I guess they will have to name the four living creatures so they can pray to them. The four living creatures and Mary, that's the ticket.

1,854 posted on 12/18/2014 10:58:11 AM PST by xone
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To: redleghunter; defconw; metmom; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Elsie
The same Book of Revelation in which Roman Catholics tell us is full of symbols/allegory and should not be taken literally?

Yet they tell us to that we actually eat and drink the flesh and blood of Christ at communion.

Amazing.

1,864 posted on 12/18/2014 12:05:39 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: redleghunter; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Elsie; ealgeone
The same Book of Revelation in which Roman Catholics tell us is full of symbols/allegory and should not be taken literally?

Except when it suits them to support their doctrines.

Just like a few verses in John 6 and Matthew 18.

Go figure...

1,867 posted on 12/18/2014 12:08:52 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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