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To: BlueDragon; Resettozero; vladimir998

The passages (John 19,, John 6, Luke 22, 1 Cor 11) teach what they do very plainly; the only way to square them with the Protestant set of superstitions is to discard them altogether. Which, effectively, is what Protestantism does.


1,763 posted on 12/18/2014 7:31:59 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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Those passages are not beyond debate, that discussion being a matter of all it's own --- which is different than the way the words of those whom you so blithely and off-handed criticized were represented to be.

Even then -- if that other man be wrong in his own understanding of those scriptures --- it is not the scripture itself which he was speaking of when he talked of corruption.

So again, shame on you for having so readily agreed with that misrepresentation.

But it is this very sort of slippery shiftiness of discourse which makes any real communication with those whom engage in that tactic -- quite difficult, for first -- all that sort of tangling things up and switching around identity of what is being discussed -- needs to be straightened out, before one can logically (and honestly) proceed.

So now...is added yet further misrepresentation of reality, including accusation of superstition -- a "Protestant set" of alleged superstitions...

From what fetid swamp of popish accusatory self-justifications comes this talk of Protestant superstition?

And what would any of that sort of thing have to do with, or bear directly upon the scriptures in question?

It's those sort of rhetorical flourishes ---- which there is no evidence or justification for -- which lead me to conclude your own opinions are simply that, opinions, whose foundations for once examined (if one can get past all the bigotry, and flurry of insult) are seldom what they are initially advertised to be.

All the back-and-forth to bring things into focus, in the past have taken threads running into the many hundreds of comments, all along the way all this additional spewing of bigotries needing be contended with while trying to get to the bottom of the originally expressed bigotries.

Hey, it's all great as defense mechanism, to keep issues from being fully examined -- sort-of like porcupine quills, odoriferous skunk spray, or the brightly colored barbs of lion-fish and similar serve to deter closer inspection for those creatures. But for conversation wherein those not already convinced and accepting of many of the premises held by "Catholics" in regards to what the Church truly is, what history and scripture both can illuminate for us, what these so-called "Protestants" believe and practice, those mechanisms (of both attack and defense) preclude simple conversation, and certainly anything approaching neutral discussion which could be fair to all parties.

1,808 posted on 12/18/2014 8:18:39 AM PST by BlueDragon (I could see sound,love,and the soundsetme Free,but youwerenot listening,so could not see)
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