We don't believe that the saints are asleep. We believe all we are waiting for is to get our glorified bodies back. Souls go to Heaven, Hell or Purgatory for a time. The Communion of Saints is alive and well and with Christ. So it's not at all absurd to us to ask them to pray for us.

I know that you will come back with a demand that I prove it to you from the Bible. I suggest you contact a theologian. I am not a theologian or Biblical scholar, nor have I ever claimed to be. It's what I believe and nothing you come up will ever change that. For what it is worth, I don't care if you believe it, that is your right.

It's what I believe and nothing you come up will ever change that. For what it is worth, I don't care if you believe it, that is your right.

Understood.

No religion and no politics.

Still waiting on the birth of my first grandbaby today...in another State. Whatcha doin' yourself?

We don't believe that the saints are asleep.

We believe what the Scriptures say!!!

Psalm 13:3
Look on me and answer, Lord my God. Give light to my eyes, or I will sleep in death,

Psalm 90:5
Yet you sweep people away in the sleep of death— they are like the new grass of the morning:

Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 11:12-13
His disciples replied, “Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.”
Jesus had been speaking of his death, but his disciples thought he meant natural sleep.

1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery:

We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.

For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Ephesians 5:14
This is why it is said: “Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”

1 Thessalonians 4:13
Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope.

>>I am not a theologian or Biblical scholar, nor have I ever claimed to be.<<

So if unbelievers go directly to hell when they die does Jesus take them out of hell and then put them back in hell at the judgement? And if the saved go directly to heaven does Jesus take them out of heaven and then declare that they can go back to heaven?

“I know that you will come back with a demand that I prove it to you from the Bible. I suggest you contact a theologian. I am not a theologian or Biblical scholar, nor have I ever claimed to be. It’s what I believe and nothing you come up will ever change that.”

Invincible Ignorance (Logic):

The invincible ignorance fallacy is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word, the method instead being to make assertions with no consideration of objections.