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To: redleghunter; metmom; boatbums; daniel1212; CynicalBear
Theotokos

I’d be careful with the “God-giver” connotation.

That is what mothers do: they give children to the world. When the Cchild is divine, that is Whom Mary gave. This is not denying the fact that Jesus pre-existed Mary, if that is what you are worried about.

Besides, I am not telling you whom to venerate and how; you guys are. If you want to "be careful", well, I am not your pastor.

1,021 posted on 12/16/2014 7:53:17 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
That is what mothers do: they give children to the world. When the Cchild is divine, that is Whom Mary gave. This is not denying the fact that Jesus pre-existed Mary, if that is what you are worried about.

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation, he came down from heaven:

by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man...

Not even the fathers of the Nicene creed assumed.

1,029 posted on 12/16/2014 8:21:49 AM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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