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To: roamer_1
" I fully expect to see the Ps 83 war, and the Magog war within my lifetime - That one cannot see prophecy coming true right before our eyes is astounding to me."
You do me an injustice to say I do not see prophecy coming true. I do.

"Well, we may as well stop right here then. If you are willing to throw away the prophets, there will be no agreement."
Again, I have not thrown away the prophets. Some prophecies and covenants were conditional. If the conditions were not met, they did not happen. Seems pretty straightforward to me. But if you wish to stop right there then I wish you wellness and prosperity. And will leave it at that.

250 posted on 12/15/2014 8:23:38 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob
You do me an injustice to say I do not see prophecy coming true. I do

Good! I didn't get that from your treatment of Ezekiel. I meant no offense, but simply that such a condition would be insurmountable.

Some prophecies and covenants were conditional. If the conditions were not met, they did not happen.

True, But study the matter, and I think you will find that as concerns what has been prophesied, that will NEVER apply. This is most easily confirmed in the blessing (or inheritance). It is unconditional, and divided between the brothers (and thereby the tribes), and cannot be gained or lost by any means. Because of it's division, the only portion to be found in Yeshua is the portion of Judah (the rod, the crown, and the scepter) - The rest, and particularly Joseph (through Ephraim and Manasseh,) remain in the tribes to which they were assigned. These things, inevitably MUST come true. Prove that out, and every objection must fall away.

It is too large a thing to annotate here, but follow that out... What you will find is that what you think is conditional cannot be. YHWH will cause all of it to come to pass, not because of reprobate Israel, or backsliding Judah... but because of His own Word. If He said it, it will happen. THE covenant is with a single Seed. But the inheritance intrinsically ties all of Israel to that Seed.

And more to the point, I know of no condition that impinges upon the Kingdom visions whatsoever.

251 posted on 12/15/2014 9:14:38 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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