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To: metmom
"Nobody can say that that's not serving her, or worshiping her for that matter."

Sure we can.

If all this were directed to Mary alone, Mary tour court, it would be idolatry and would be damnable. It would be a disordered love for her, and a disordered honor, worship of some goddess or half-goddess.

But Catholics see Mary's honor as an entirely derivative thing, in the same way that the light of the moon is entirely derived from the sun. You may not see it this way, yourself, but you will understand us, anyway, more accurately if you see this Mary thing as we see it: not as idolatry but as a glory envisioned by God Himself (Rev 12) and thus an appropriate honor for the mother of our King. If HE gives this honor, it is honorable: "Honor thy father and thy mother --- and wouldn't Jesus fulfill this commandment to a superlative degree?

She who was nothing, she who was but dust. What HE has done for His lowly handmaid!

For God will make you glorious in heaven, metmom, and me too I pray ---


But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the mind of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."

2,234 posted on 12/16/2014 10:58:23 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Nor has entered into the mind of man, what God has prepared for those who love Him." - 1 Cor 2:9)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
If all this were directed to Mary alone, Mary tour court, it would be idolatry and would be damnable. It would be a disordered love for her, and a disordered honor, worship of some goddess or half-goddess.

If it's directed to Mary at all, it's still idolatry and you cannot then be giving God your 100%.

Jesus told us to love the Lord our God with ALL our heart, soul, mind, and strength.

If we give any portion of that to Mary, then we are not giving God ALL of it.

And if we are giving God all of it, there's no room left for Mary.

2,307 posted on 12/17/2014 3:53:05 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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