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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It is about Jesus have a holy womb in which to grow so that he could be fully human and fully God.

You do believe that, don’t you?

You do have Luke in your Bible, correct?


10 posted on 12/08/2014 3:21:38 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“It is about Jesus have a holy womb in which to grow so that he could be fully human and fully God.”

Actually, it has nothing to do with a holy womb.

“You do believe that, don’t you?

I believe Christ is fully human and fully God.

“You do have Luke in your Bible, correct?

I think you know I do :-)


24 posted on 12/08/2014 4:45:40 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Salvation
You do have Luke in your Bible, correct?

I do...But it doesn't have the perversion you espouse in it...

41 posted on 12/08/2014 6:10:18 PM PST by Iscool (e)
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To: Salvation; aMorePerfectUnion; Iscool
It is about Jesus have a holy womb in which to grow so that he could be fully human and fully God.

Jesus' nature has nothing to do with the environment in which He gestated.

You do believe that, don’t you?

No, because having a *holy* womb us not a requirement anywhere foretold in Scripture as a condition for the messiah to meet to fulfill prophecy. Nor is there any Scriptural support for it.

Man's sinfulness is not due to being carried by a human, sinful mother, but rather because of their inherent nature, something that is intrinsic to them.

Same with Jesus. His nature was intrinsic, not based on environment.

You do have Luke in your Bible, correct?

Sure Luke is in Scripture. Show us where Jesus' nature is dependent on Mary's alleged sinlessness.

And supposing it was, then how did MARY become sinless born of a sinful mother? Her mother would have likewise had to be sinless for Mary to be if Mary needed to be sinless for Jesus to be.

And back it goes, a whole family line of women who needed to be sinless in order to produce more sinless women so that one could carry the Messiah.

Actually, for Jesus to be fully human, to share fully in our humanity and to be tempted in every way, just as we are and yet remain without sin, He would have NEEDED a sinful mother to be born of and to raise Him.

How hard would it be to be obedient to the perfect mother? Nobody else has one. How can He be tempted in every way that we are and yet remains without sin, if He did not experience life as we do?

61 posted on 12/08/2014 11:20:37 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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