Posted on 12/08/2014 2:31:02 PM PST by piusv
Pursuing interreligious dialogue and opening hearts and minds to others are the way to face troubled times, stressed participants in the Third Catholic-Muslim Summit held this week in Rome.
“Our meeting here, I would think, is a sign of hope for our troubled world. It is a message to all humanity, especially to us, the members of the great family of Abraham – the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims,” said Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, following the conclusion of the Dec. 2-4 meeting, which was themed “Christians and Muslims: Believers living in Society.”
In addition to Cardinal Tauran, the principal leaders of the summit included Prince Hassan bin Talal of Jordan; Mostafa Mohaghegh Damad, an ayatollah and director of Islamic Studies at Iran's Academy of Sciences; and John Bryson Chane, an Episcopalian bishop.
Chane stressed that “Christianity and Islam have at this moment in time a great opportunity to work together effectively with governments and civil societies currently in turmoil.”
“They can begin to re-shape a culture of peace in a world too much torn apart by sectarian violence and political pilfering. Christianity and Islam can and must be the bridge builders of the 21st century,” he concluded.
Prince Hassan bin Talal said “the schisms in the world today have become so numerous, the inequities and inequalities so stark, that a universal respect for human dignity must once again be brought back to the consciousness of the international community. Now, more than at any other time, an ethic of human solidarity and a new international order are required.”
All of the participants agree that now it is the time for a renewed Christian and Muslim dialogue, starting from mutual acceptance and in order to find a common path.
Cardinal Tauran underscored that “one of the important bases for the acceptance of the other and therefore for social peace is to be aware of the unity of the human family. It is one in its origin: God; one in its end: God; one in its fundamental needs: air, water, food, dress, shelter, etc. The human aspects of our life are one: joy, sorrow, hope, despair, fear, etc.”
“Having all this in common, the legitimate differences – ethnicity, religion, culture, political choices – should not be a reason for refusing the other, ignoring him or her, marginalizing, persecuting, or even eliminating him or her, as is unfortunately the case in our days, especially in Iraq and in Syria, and in particular towards the Christians and Yazidis,” Cardinal Tauran maintained.
Abraham Skorka, a rabbi and a friend of Pope Francis, took part in the summit, saying that “in the 20th century were consummated horrible crimes in the name of new anthropomorphic religions. Nazism and Stalinism killed millions of human beings on the altar of their fanatic and insane beliefs.”
From the 1970s on, he then stressed, “many went back to the old religions,” but “their returning was not to the pureness and spiritual depth, but to their extreme and aggressive aspects.”
“As tolerance and acceptance of the other was not in the vocabulary of the anthropocentric religions, some new expressions of the renewed traditional religions do not know about the other, in his right to be different,” he concluded.
The Christian-Muslim Summit is a gathering of Christian and Muslim leaders from around the world and experts from both religious traditions who come together for purposes of interreligious and intercultural relationship building and to address issues of conflict that exist between religions and nations.
Pope Francis met the summit participants Dec. 3, reminding them that dialogue is “the path to peace.
Pope Francis also thanked the summit for their work on the path to dialogue, since “this helps us to strengthen our fraternity.”
The fourth summit is expected to be held in Iran.
Where does one begin to comment on this?
I can see this discussion:
Muslim: Convert or die!
Catholic doesn’t answer fast enough and gets killed.
discussion over.
What could possibly go wrong with this liaison?
dialogue?
How do you convince someone who wants to kill you if you don’t convert, that you are to be left alone?
From their holy book:
Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
The difference between Islam and Christianity is clear. Christ teaches forgiveness. Mohamed teaches killing. Killing is the nature of their religion.
The example of Mohamed on forgivness Sahih Muslim, Book 17: 4206
There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle.By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.
The example of Jesus on forgivness (John 8:1-11)
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. "Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?" They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. Straightening up, Jesus said to her, "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."
Whole swaths of the Koran would have to be rewritten to make non-muslims as equals!
That will happen when they start eating pork.
And what you described has taken place for the past 1300 years.
Anyone who claims that Christianity has not been patient enough with Islam, suffers from extreme tunnel vision in favor of Islam.
Ok, but if I’m going to build an Ark like Noah’s, I’m leaving mosquitos and beets behind.
This is mostly a matter of incorrect translation.
The root word for Islam is “al-Silm” which means submission. Islam is by definition the religion of submission.
These talks will lead only to the submission of Catholics to the will of Muslims. There won’t be any Christian prayers said in Mosques. No churches will be constructed in Saudi Arabia.
Peace has nothing to do with any of it.
ROP bookmark.
Islam is a false religion
When Spain was beginning to re-take their country back from the Muslims in the 1100s, both the Catholics and the Muslims engaged in philosophical discussion. It was upon those talks that the two religions actually had some sort of common ground. This was all outside any kind of military problems.
Around the time that the Toledo translators were working on Aristotle's Ethics which the West had not seen, the top imams decided that Islam would no longer allow any Muslim to study philosophy. They actually put a fatwa out on anyone caught reading philosophy. They could not even read the commentaries that their own muslim philosophers had written.
That fatwa put the cabosh on any sort of dialogue with the West. And since that time their has been no philosophical exchange with the West. The Muslim world is actually stuck in the Middle Ages intellectually.
What Pope Francis has done is work to open this dialogue back up. I see the merit in it, because without philosophical dialogue there is no greasing of tensions. And Lord knows, the people most interested in true peace should be free to speak to each other.
Please see post #15.
For us to consider this Summit as something that should not take place then we are no different than the muslims who would prefer to cut someone's head off rather than listen to reason.
This is the same a Republicans reaching across aisle to appease Democrats. Wont work, never has and never will!
The path to peace?
This pope is downright dangerous to all Infidels in his naive approach to a proven killer like Islam.
It's like a persons immune system deciding to get along with cancer cells instead of wiping them out.
Unfortunaely that happens al the time.
We see that everyday in cancer patients. Their immune sysem let them down.
The results are too often fatal, or a slow death for people, like the Christians in the middle east have, and are presently suffering from Islam.
Getting along with cancer and Islam are not good choices for survival. -tom
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