What in the world do you make of THIS?

Exactly! Thank you.

See my post # 120.

How do you know that Saturday these days is the same Saturday following creation? Calendar errors could have resulted in that day now being called Tuesday. And we’d all go to hell. Or Cleveland.

I understand that the Shavuot starts on the night of the sixth day according to the Talmud but it is clear that Moses received them on the morning of the next day and it is not clear to me when Moses presented them to the people.

Perhaps you should rely on Torah rather than Talmud... And YHWH's counting rather than man's. Pentecost and Shavuot are the same day.

It seems plain enough to me that the seventh day of rest was separated from the feast of weeks and first fruits and the ingarhering at the years end.

But Shavuot is also a First Fruits offering. It is the First Fruits of the winter wheat... it is also the last day of the counting of the omer, tying it specifically to Passover and First Fruits and the days of unleavened bread. If you study the significance, you will find that all of them are leading forth out of Egypt... But then, you won't see that unless you see them all together as the spring feasts.

Perhaps you should rely on Torah rather than Talmud... And YHWH’s counting rather than man’s. Pentecost and Shavuot are the same day.

I read neither one as I can barely read English, what I did do was read quite a few comments from the so called scholars who claim to know.

Many believe that the seven day feast can start on Friday rather than Saturday which would put Jesus`s death on Thursday instead of Friday which puts Jesus in the grave more like three days instead of two and it makes perfect sense to me.

And the feast of weeks do not change the fact that there is a Sabbath day every seven days.

Many believe that the seven day feast can start on Friday rather than Saturday which would put Jesus`s death on Thursday instead of Friday which puts Jesus in the grave more like three days instead of two and it makes perfect sense to me.

Then we are in fair agreement. though I believe he died upon a Wednesday (He must be in the belly of the earth for three days and nights).

What most people don't understand is that the spring feasts are beholden to two different time series:

Passover, and therefore the Feast of Unleavened Bread are tied to the first day of the month, which can fall on any day of the week... Thus Passover can fall on any day of the week, just being 14 days past the first of the month.

First Fruits and the Counting of the Omer, and thereby Shavuot (Pentecost), are tied to a day of the week (the day after the first Sabbath after Passover).

Thus these two sets are different, but 'float' closely together, the difference being made up between Passover, and the next Sabbath after Passover.... That 'float' in the year that Yeshua died, must contain precisely three days and three nights.

And the feast of weeks do not change the fact that there is a Sabbath day every seven days.

True again. The Sabbath has not changed. And there is no defense for those who say it has.

Then we are in fair agreement. though I believe he died upon a Wednesday (He must be in the belly of the earth for three days and nights).

Ok, that makes sense, Thanks.