boatbums post #195: "Amen! Is anything to hard for God? "
Bingo! We have a winner, and there it is: the gateway to understanding.
Genesis (the Bible) is not "all about" science, it's all about God -- how God created science, how God rules over science and how God, on occasion, over-rules science.
And that is what you must believe, regardless of what today's science may say on any particular subject.
If you can't believe God rules science, then you're not a believer, period, and little of the Bible makes sense.
But once you accept that God rules science, then all these little details we learn from science (i.e., big bang, old earth, evolution) are irrelevant to the Bible's message.
Today's science may or may not be overturned by tomorrow's discoveries, but the Bible's message cannot be overturned by anything humans say or do.
Agreed?
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You do not understand what “science” is, apparently.
Science is the gathering of information.
What is done with that information, is supposed to be to study it in order to create a model that accurately speaks to that body of information.
Unfortunately, that process has been abandoned, in favor of propaganda, in all areas that pertain to life and origins. What is offered as “science” is in reality politics and manipulation.
This situation is in no way a recent development, as evidenced by the following statement from a short story written many decades ago by renowned scientist, and Sci-Fi author Robert Heinlein:
“There are but two ways of forming an opinion in science. One is the scientific method, the other, the scholastic. One can judge from experiment, or one can blindly accept authority. To the scientific mind, experimental proof is all-important, and theory is merely a convenience in description, to be junked when it no longer fits. To the academic mind, authority is everything, and facts are to be junked when they do not fit theory laid down by authority”
Do you really think that aligning your self with academia makes you look "intelligent?"
Certainly not to those with broad understanding.
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I do agree. There is such a thing as "absolute truth" - it's true whether or not anyone believes it or even knows about it. Science, as man's endeavor to understand the universe and all that is within it, is limited by several bounds including mankind's ability, as finite creatures, to comprehend the infinite. Science as made dramatic inroads into knowledge especially WRT even our recent past and that knowledge exponentially increases with every new discovery. But compared to Almighty God, man's wisdom is foolishness - a drop in the ocean of what all CAN be known. There comes a point where science is wholly inadequate to explain the infinite and that is where faith comes in. For those of us who may never reach the heights of available human knowledge, faith comes much sooner, but everyone will have to surrender, at some point, to the realization that, compared to God, we are ALL fools. Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?
I so look forward to the day when we will have the mind of Christ and then we may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passes knowledge, that we might be filled with all the fullness of God.
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! For who has known the mind of the Lord? or who has been his counselor? Or who has first given to him, and it shall be recompensed to him again? For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen. (Romans 11:33-36)
I partially agree with your post. Yes no thing created can negate God’s Word.
Perhaps it is a matter of approach where we differ.
Your posts present a strong focus on evolution as compatible with the Christian faith. IMHO this may suit some in the realm of curiosity or striving to “deconflict” evolution with Christianity. However, I personally see this as a futile effort.
God made Genesis 1-3 short and sweet (or bitter considering Man’s fall). I believe there is a reason for that. His focus was on revealing Man’s fall, their sinful wickedness and Praise God His plan of deliverance, then fulfilling that plan through Jesus Christ. The remainder of God’s revelation to mankind is the command to preach the Gospel of salvation through Jesus Christ.
Back to my comment on “a futile effort.” If someone cannot get passed Genesis 1:1 then chances are they can’t get passed Moses parting the Red Sea, the sun standing still for Joshua, Jonah in the belly of a fish for three days and the Messiah multiplying fish and loaves; rising Lazarus from the dead 4 days after dead in a tomb; and most importantly after Jesus Himself crucified and died, rising from the dead with a new and Glorified body.
Such creates philosophical contradictions eventually. If one strongly approaches “evangelizing” evolution as Biblically compatible or God’s “plan” for creation, then where in scriptures do we stop rationalizing and say “well about ‘here’ we can be assured God is being literal with us.”
I ask, where is ‘here’ for you? Meaning where can we as Christians and even Hebrews/Jews take Scriptures as literally true?