Posted on 11/24/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by NYer
Mine was removed. lol
I wonder where peter got the idea that a day with God was as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day?
Could he have gotten it from the creation story in Genesis?
Thanks, and yeah, the four hidden Satanic dynasties of the ends times: political (UN, Democrats, mainstream media), religious (RCC and megachurches), educational (teachers union, college professors), financial (the Fed) constantly pushing political correctness on us. The left loves it when ridiculous theories have to be made up because they've made the truth undiscussable, it gives them something to laugh at.
Those of us that follow God's Word truly have our own Goliath in this day with the four dynasties.
Political correctness sews pillowcases over the outreached arms of truth.
I wonder where peter got the idea that a day with God was as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day? Could he have gotten it from the creation story in Genesis?
Good point!
You mean like "Hath God said?" Then you have the demonic other extreme, in which someone will take something literal which was obviously (in the light of the rest of Scripture) figurative as denoting spiritual (as the "lamb" of God in Jn. 1, Lord referring to the temple in Jn 2, "born" in Jn. 3, "water" and "meat" in Jn. 4, and flesh and blood in Jn. 6, etc.)
Political correctness sews pillowcases over the outreached arms of truth.
And driving people from salvation. The truth makes sense, even to the mainstream, when it's allowed to be heard.
The truth makes sense, even to the mainstream, when it’s allowed to be heard.
Adam was never born.
“... it was not the first time Moses and the LORD Jesus Christ had met to talk.”
There’s an interesting theory that the “Angel of the Lord” who appears at various times throughout the OT was the pre-incarnation Christ. The main evidence is that while other angels take pains to warn men not to offer them veneration, this angel alone accepted it, which would make sense if he really was the Son.
“God is the same yesterday, today, forever. If a thousand years is one day to God in the millennium, then it could be in Genesis, and obviously was.”
If you want us to accept this argument, then you’d have to apply it consistently. So, every time that the word “day” is used in the Bible, you must substitute “thousand years”. Otherwise, you are not following the first sentence, but actually claiming that God changes this principle whenever it’s convenient for your interpretation.
Not having access to the Vatican and other private collections that might shed some light, all I have is the Holy Bible and the Holy Spirit with me to point out what pertains to me and/or what I am to be doing.
That said, I guess that the Angel of the Lord was Gabriel or Michael or another. But I believe Moses encountered THE LORD Himself on Sinai, and not an Emissary of The Lord.
“That said, I guess that the Angel of the Lord was Gabriel or Michael or another.”
Could be, I don’t really know, but it is an interesting theory. If it were true, it would be nice to think that Jesus was intimately involved throughout the salvation story, and not just showing himself towards the end when He was born.
“But I believe Moses encountered THE LORD Himself on Sinai, and not an Emissary of The Lord.”
Yes, that I am sure of, as the ground was sacred because of the Lord’s presence.
And He told us exactly how He did it. Why some people struggle to explain away His account is beyond me.
" At the time of Jesus the little history that people knew was that Kingdoms were conquered by other kingdoms and the current rulers were not the founders. For example Israel , the Kingdom of David , was conquered and now ruled by Rome. So what about creation. Who made it? Did the God of Israel find it? Take it over from someone other. No."
The prophets of the Old Testament and the Jewish clergy of both the OT and NT eras believed Genesis was a factual account.
" The answer that Jesus gave and taught over and over through his ministry was that there was but one God and that he was the Creator of all, which is the heart of the Genesis message."
Uh-huh. The heart of the message is another way of saying the kernel of truth extracted from what you see as metaphor.
" Jesus reaffirmed the message of Genesis. As far as is known He never sat down in a seminar and deconstructed his parables, symbols nor did he dissect the Scriptures as one does today other than to disparage and humiliate those who sought to justify themselves with the common “It is written...”
Jesus twice stated that God made the first man and the first woman at the beginning of creation.
Do you think He was being deceptive? Do you think He was mistaken? You refuse to answer those questions.
Both in Romans and in 1 Corinthians, Paul referred to Adam as a once-living human being, and as the first man, through whom sin entered the world.
What about Paul? We know he was inspired by the Holy Spirit, so how could he have written anything false, misleading, or wrong?
Exactly right.
Cute!
The Pentateuch, as the first five books of the Old Testament are called, are referred to as the the books of Moses in the New Testament (see 2 Cor. 3:15; Acts 13:15; Acts 15:21; Acts 28:23) as well as Jesus doing so in Luke 24:27; John 5:46; Luke 16:29,31.
Catholics find that to be true everyday....
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