Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

Crisis Magazine ^ | November 24, 2014 | DENNIS BONNETTE

[ravenwolf]

In other words, which O.T. books are necessary for a Christian? Thanks.

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Are you taking me for the fish or the worm?

[Resettozero]

Yes.

[ravenwolf]

Wonder if they talked about anything else that’s not recorded in The Books of the Law. Perhaps not.

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Wasn’t he credited to have written Genesis?

[editor-surveyor]

>> “I’m learning that RCC teaching veers away too much from the Gospel preached by Paul. And it has become more apparent to me why it must...for the RCC to exist as a “Christian” church.” <<

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Really there is much more than that.

In his revelation in Hebrews 3 and 4, Paul makes it clear that the gospel that he preached is the very same gospel that Moses preached, and the only defect in Moses time was the total lack of belief and faith on the part of most of those that had been born in Egypt.
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That is never going to mesh with Roman Catholicism.

Where is “Mary?”

Where is praying to the dead?

Where is purgatory?

Where is buying your family’s way out of purgatory with indulgences?

Nothing Moses ever preached contains any of this.
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[DungeonMaster]

“God is not a divine being with a magic wand” the pope.

[ravenwolf]

That’s what I say all the time, only Jesus was perfect in wisdom, the rest of us are wrong in places. But of course I believe I am closer to the truth than anyone else now. :^)

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I know exactly what you mean.

The saying is that wisdom starts when you realize how much you don`t know.

But that can`t be or how could I still know it all,????

[ravenwolf]

Yes.

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Thanks.

[Resettozero]

Wasn’t he credited to have written Genesis?

Yes, at least in the NKJV and ESV. That's what my post meant...perhaps Moses learned quite a few other things on Sinai.

[Resettozero]

Nothing Moses ever preached contains any of this.

As an aside, remember that when Elijah and Moses appeared with Jesus all in brilliant white on the Mount of Transfiguration, as witnessed by Peter, James, and John, it was not the first time Moses and the LORD Jesus Christ had met to talk.

And THAT'S quite a thought, isn't it!

[Zionist Conspirator]

For your interest.

This is how the Catholic doctrine of creation and Genesis is conventionally presented, both to FReepers and to the world.

[editor-surveyor]

Nice try.

Most here are far beyond such nonsense.

FR is not tolerant of racism in any form, so you might want to ask to have that post removed yourself.

Yeshua made it all clear in the gospels, if you are willing to read them more than superficially.

[redleghunter]

It goes a bit more than you accurately described. Some RCs even try to point out that the epistles of Paul were for specific churches (since they were addressed to specific churches) and not for all of the church. Thus denoting the epistles of James, John, Peter and Jude are the ‘catholic’ (for all) epistles.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

We know from the Bible that only 8 survived the flood: Noah, wife and sons ,wives. How much of the Cain line of people were mixed in with Noah?

None, Noah was perfect in his generations. Eight Adamic souls were on the ark. The bible is the story of Adam's family and those in close contact with them, and so Noah's ark was the vehicle to save Noah's family. God may have had other vehicles for other peoples. But just as the bible doesn't give Chinese history for instance, it doesn't specify how the other people's were saved.

Since the crucifixion all that accept Christ are of Abraham now.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

The saying is that wisdom starts when you realize how much you don`t know. But that can`t be or how could I still know it all,????

Catch 22. :^)

[ravenwolf]

Yes, at least in the NKJV and ESV. That’s what my post meant...perhaps Moses learned quite a few other things on Sinai.

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Yes he most likely did.

Ok, I thought that he was credited some where with it, but like about every thing else there are most likely other opinions which I am not familiar with.

[Resettozero]

Some RCs even try to point out that the epistles of Paul were for specific churches (since they were addressed to specific churches) and not for all of the church. Thus denoting the epistles of James, John, Peter and Jude are the ‘catholic’ (for all) epistles.

Hadn't considered the definition of catholic in that way before but I see the RCC sense of it. Limit the New Testament to just the Gospels and certain books, plus O.T. and the Apocrypha, and except for Acts, the New Testament is de-Paulined...defanged of much that contradicts many RCC beliefs and practices.

Paul's teachings of the Gospel of Jesus Christ as Lord are too precise to allow for a board of directors to determine company policies which the board can change, if it becomes appropriate to accomodate the catholic masses by making changes.

Something like that?

[Resettozero]

I believe Moses is credited with writing Genesis as you said. Wasn’t intending to be obtuse but I was anyway.

R2z

[redleghunter]

Well yes. Paul in Romans leaves very little for us to scratch our heads about. Romans as well as Hebrews are the two detailed theological tomes explaining the Work of Christ and the OT linkages of fulfillment.

[ravenwolf]

Else, are you familiar with the old cure called hadacol?
not sure if the spelling is right.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

Nice try. Most here are far beyond such nonsense. FR is not tolerant of racism in any form, so you might want to ask to have that post removed yourself. Yeshua made it all clear in the gospels, if you are willing to read them more than superficially.

The left has been very successful in demonizing the truth to where it can't be discussed. So we're left with theories that simple observation proves are not true then we wonder why Christians are mocked by the mainstream.

We're not saving souls by pushing ridiculous theories in place of the truth because of fear of the left.

That's why when the antiChrist comes, it will be easy pickins for him. The main points of the bible have been sanitized by the left so that confusion reigns. 7000 of us will know the truth and speak it when the time comes without having our thoughts removed, maybe the rest of those to be saved will get it then.