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To: piusv; Elsie
It was never negotiable prior to Vatican II. You would never find a pope saying anything like what paragraph 819 says. I could post a bunch of other papal quotes, etc that makes it clear that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church and that no other church is a “means of salvation”.

I regret my flippant remark of yesterday; Elsie has been too much an influence on me of late. 8>)

The RCC has misappropriated the manner of God's salvation of one's soul and has confiscated salvation to only within the RC church's confines, restrictions, traditions, and generally confusing and changeable teachings and position papers.

I much prefer true salvation through faith in Jesus Christ and Him alone as Lord of my life and as Son of the Living God, our Father in Heaven.

The RCC, the more I learn, reminds me of secular earthly governments more than it does of of the Person of Jesus Christ and what kind of Church HE founded on Himself, the Rock.

The RCC definitely is something for me to avoid because the attractiveness of the RCC's human appeal is evident and seductive to the carnal mind. I understand how a human being might be trapped by it, especially if born into the RCC, which, thank God, I was not.
67 posted on 11/23/2014 8:16:51 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
I regret my flippant remark of yesterday; Elsie has been too much an influence on me of late. 8>)

Hang in there; as he will soon get you to think that flippancy is desirable - even required!!

77 posted on 11/23/2014 11:13:19 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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