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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; HossB86; ...
Starting this week, the Vatican is raffling off tickets for a chance to win unwanted papal gifts that Francis doesn’t need. Raffle tickets cost €10 and can be purchased at a select few spots including the Vatican post office and at the Vatican’s tourist and pilgrimage bureau in St. Peter’s Square. The winners will be drawn on January 8, which makes the raffle tickets the perfect Christmas gift.

Now wait a minute.

Haven't we been told time and again that priests take a vow of poverty and that the pope doesn't own anything, which is supposed to somehow justify his living in opulence?

So how can he raffle off what is not his?

Does he have permission from the owners to do that?

35 posted on 11/19/2014 12:13:09 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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That seems to be the least of the concerns of Catholics here. Their obsession with earthly treasure is rather striking however.


50 posted on 11/19/2014 1:48:59 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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Still waiting on an answer for post 35.

Seems that no Catholic has bothered to tackle it.


168 posted on 11/22/2014 7:19:18 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

As to post 35:

Religious order priests take a vow of poverty but not simple archdiocesan priests. They can own property. Of course, this pope is a Jesuit priest. You ask how the pope can raffle off what is not his, but of course as leader of the universal church, he can raffle off gifts to the Church given to him as pope.

He lives in two rooms in the Vatican hotel, which I would hardly call “opulence”. In not living in the papal apartments, you will let him have an extra room to deal with his duties as Pope, won’t you?

In Argentina, the Pope as Archbishop didn’t live in the Archbishop’s residence but lived in a simple apartment. Even before Pope, he has a history of selling vehicles provided for him, buying much older ones, and giving the monetary difference as a gift to the poor. Often he wouldn’t even use the older vehicle but would ride the bus instead. He would usually make his own meals in his apartment which consisted of rice and the like.

I’m more scandalized by the lifestyles of the prosperity preachers than by the lifestyle of this Pope.


172 posted on 11/24/2014 6:04:05 AM PST by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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