Posted on 11/18/2014 7:54:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
>Even when I disagree strongly with the religion, as I do with Islam, I respect their belief.<
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In that same vein, you must also respect Nazism, Communism, atheism and Satanism because its adherents also believe that they walk on the path of truth.
It’s “nice”? It’s the Word of God. You’re new on Free Republic, so maybe you don’t realize that many here believe God’s Word. And, I don’t give a rip that “many others” don’t believe the Bible. It’s too bad for them.
I did not say I respect what they believe in, I said I respect the people with that belief system, always hoping I can help show them where they are wrong.
Seems to me this is a variant of love the sinner while hating the sin.
One of my best friends, BTW, is a white-bread CA boy who converted to Islam back in the early 70s because Episcopalianism was so warlike. In his defence, he belongs to a Sufi sect that really is nonviolent and which ISIS kills whenever they get the chance.
I believe he is wrong, but I respect him and therefore his belief.
YMMV
I am not new, just this name, and I realize there are many non-Christians here also.
Jesus died for everyone's sins. True. But he also said that people will be shouting out his name as the doors close and he will say go away, I do not know you.
So yes, Jesus died for our sins and God does love the world. But you have to love back. You have to recognize Jesus as your Lord and Saviour. It is not a one way street.
I think most Christians will agree that God doesn't hear or respond to all prayers.
But it's really dangerous to set yourself up as the authority competent to decide which He hears and which He doesn't.
Sad that many others do not. True, but sad.
We are approaching a time of harvest, so to speak.
"Hear the trumpets, hear the pipers."
I’m doing no such thing—setting myself up as “the authority.” You appear to be an antagonist here. Your “newbie” status only reinforces this appearance.
The question was not necessarily theological nor the answer ...
Of COURSE there are variances of result depending on what you do with Jesus
I don’t think we’re approaching a time of harvest, this is just the way of the world, 2014
A proud noobie since 2006, that’s me! (Actually I posted under a different handle for some years before that.)
I agree God doesn’t hear all prayers, I just think it presumptuous of me or you to say that we know which prayers He does hear.
Among other things, Jesus was very clear that in the Last Days a good many of those who were firmly convinced they were on His good side would be rejected, while those viewed by themselves and others as “not good enough” would be welcomed into His kingdom.
If you were not trying to say that in your opinion God did not hear Muslim prayers, then I apologize for my misunderstanding. But if you were, it sure looks to me like you were setting yourself up as the authority who knows which prayers He hears.
As well as "see" while we wait.
Pray for good vision.
Just out of curiosity, whose prayers do you know that God listened to during the reformation?
Sorry, Sherman. My "newbie" comment to you was a mistake, not meant for you, but for the other guy who just signed up in August.
Sorry, new guy, but I'm not in the mood for red herring distractions that have nothing to do with your original comment and the subject of this entire thread.
No, I wasn't "setting myself up" as anything. The original comment by the other guy that the lady was "rude" was what started it. Then, the other guy said that, basically, we all pray to the same God, who has "many different names." That's what I was rejecting. Allah is NOT God, and those people who run the National Cathedral were purely stupid for inviting Islamists into that church like the dhimmis they are showing themselves to be.
Just give it a shot, if you can
NO! You're trying a classic liberal tactic of distraction, and it doesn't work on me. Your point was that God has many names, and we all pray to Him. I firmly disagree, and that's that.
Allah is indeed the Arabic word for God. It is used as such by Arabic-speaking Christians and was long before Mohammed came around.
You can say, if you like, and I'd even agree, that the "Allah" worshipped by Muslims is not the same Person as is worshipped by Christians under the same name.
Historically speaking, Jesus probably addressed His Father with an Aramaic word pronounced very similarly to that of the present day Arabic "Allah."
To say "Allah is not God," is to say, linguistically speaking, "God is not God."
Seems to me there is no question whatsoever that the lady was rude. You can make an argument her rudeness was justified, but not that it wasn't discourteous.
There are, of course, much worse sins than being rude.
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