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To: editor-surveyor

>>> To me this seems simple and clear; he who is righteous gets the “pass.” If we truly know him, he has written his Torah on our heart. If he has written Torah on our heart, we love his Torah, and keep it out of love. If that is not where you are, then you are not in him!

If you consider yourself righteous under the law, then the truth is not in you.

You cannot come to truly know Him until you recognize that you are incapable of righteousness under the law, and instead rely upon His sacrifice on the cross which PAID for your unrighteousness.

When you stand before God, He will judge you according to your righteousness, or He will judge you according to the righteousness of Christ who took on and bore the penalty for your sins in your stead.

You cannot have it both ways. It’s either Christ’s blood sacrifice that saves you, or your ability to follow the law to perfection... which IS the standard of holiness.

Christ was perfect FOR us.

If we recognize that, and believe it, we will naturally respond in love and SEEK to follow in His example, even though we know we will not always succeed.

Only a prideful man can rest in his own righteousness.


148 posted on 11/18/2014 4:16:17 PM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Safrguns

I suspect that you have extremely low reading comprehension, judging by your responses.

You constantly post strawmen to me, and I attempt to show you the scriptures so that you can understand what the word really says.

Nothing you have posted to me has any reasonable relationship to what I have posted to you.

Do you think John is wrong?

Is what John has written in conflict with your beliefs?


149 posted on 11/18/2014 4:23:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Safrguns
Let me try to get through to you one more time:

You appear to believe that it is impossible to keep Torah, is that so?

If so, then you are in conflict with the word of God.

1John 5:

[1] Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
[2] By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
[3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Get it?

His commandments are not so tough.

Nobody here has said that we are saved by keeping his commandments; we have old sins that have to be forgiven to be saved, but he who keeps on sinning (transgressing Torah) after learning Yeshua's Way will not be saved.

Hebrews 6 is no joke, nor is Matthew 7:23, nor Romans 2.

OSAS is an answer to a question that Yeshua never asked.

151 posted on 11/18/2014 4:41:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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